Car carry for PA resident with Out of state non resident permit?

[Jdambrose94]

I already know I’m ineligible for a PA LCTF due to a dumb mistake several years ago with marijuana. I do own guns legally and can purchase. My question is, if I were to apply for a non resident permit from a state with more lax requirements, can I use that Permit to carry in my car? The exceptions include car carry for any legally recognized state permit, regardless of reciprocity. And a non resident ccw from another state IS a legal permit, but the non-resident part has me second guessing. Thoughts?

[Coops]

I believe the answer is no. After Philadelphia cracked down on PA residents using Florida permits, the whole state ended reciprocity unless you are a resident of the state the license was issued.
I am not a lawyer.

[middlefinger]

I already know I’m ineligible for a PA LCTF due to a dumb mistake several years ago with marijuana. I do own guns legally and can purchase. My question is, if I were to apply for a non resident permit from a state with more lax requirements, can I use that Permit to carry in my car? The exceptions include car carry for any legally recognized state permit, regardless of reciprocity. And a non resident ccw from another state IS a legal permit, but the non-resident part has me second guessing. Thoughts?

prohibited is prohibited

[OwnTheRide]

The law makes no exceptions for residency. It specifically says "Any person."

§ 6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.

(a) Offense defined.--

(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.

(2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.

(b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to:

(11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.

I do not know if there is case law that interprets this differently than I have.

[Parrisk]

The law makes no exceptions for residency. It specifically says "Any person."

I do not know if there is case law that interprets this differently than I have.

Correct me if I am wrong: To get a Non-Resident from any other state, that state will require you to have a resident permit from your state. A few states do make exceptions for states that with Constitutional Carry

I would say a PA resident, who is prohibited, and later caught in PA trying to use a non-resident permit would but up the creek without a paddle

[Boots_DE]

Click on the Link....

Pennsylvania Superior Court has ruled that PA Residents must have a PA issued Permit to carry in
Pennsylvania. See Decision Here.

[father-of-five]

Click on the Link....

Pennsylvania Superior Court has ruled that PA Residents must have a PA issued Permit to carry in
Pennsylvania. See Decision Here.

According to page 9 of the ruling, "any person" for exemption 11 does not apply to Pennsylvania residents. It sounds like it does by itself, but then they highlight the "shall" section for Pennsylvania residents.

[Hodgie]

Correct me if I am wrong: To get a Non-Resident from any other state, that state will require you to have a resident permit from your state. A few states do make exceptions for states that with Constitutional Carry

I would say a PA resident, who is prohibited, and later caught in PA trying to use a non-resident permit would but up the creek without a paddle

When I lived in NJ I had my FL non resident permit so it wasn't a requirement as of 8 years ago.

[Steve in PA]

A PA resident must have a PA LTCF in order to carry in PA.

A PA resident cannot carry in PA on a license issued to them by another state. The case has been mentioned above.

[gnbrotz]

A PA resident must have a PA LTCF in order to carry in PA.

A PA resident cannot carry in PA on a license issued to them by another state. The case has been mentioned above.

Agree, but as with many firearm laws, many LE are not up to speed.

*Since* the court ruling, I've "successfully" presented my UT CCW on occasion, and had it "recognized" as valid for my needs. Of course, I do possess a PA LTCF as well, which I would have presented if needed, but I like to push boundaries and test the knowledge of LE as much as I can. I've found that what they "know" is frequently different than the factual reality contained in statute and case law.