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Thread: NYTimes. We need smaller bullets
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March 28th, 2019, 06:32 PM #11
Re: NYTimes. We need smaller bullets
Actually, I believe most Civil War rifles were 54 - 58 range, with larger and smaller variants.
From Wikipedia:
Types
In the Summary Statement of Ordnance and Ordnance Stores on hand, the United States government divided longarms into at least three categories; Rifles, First Class; Breech-Loading Carbines; and Muzzle Loading Carbines. These were specified as follows:[3]
Rifles - first class
Springfield muskets (hand-written onto form)
U.S. Rifles, model 1855, Calibre .58
U.S. Rifles, model 18xx, Calibre .54
Ballard's Breech-loading Rifles, Calibre .5x
Colt's Revolving Rifles, Cal. .56
Merrill's Breech-loading Rifles, Calibre .52
Spencer Breech-loading Rifles, Calibre unspecified
Sharps' Breech-loading Rifles, Calibre .52
Prussian Muskets (hand-written onto form)
Austrian Muskets (hand-written onto form)
Enfield Rifles, Calibre .58
Light French Rifles, Calibre .57
Hawken rifles
Allen Falling Block rifle .44
Breech-loading carbines
Contract carbines as they were known at that time: Cosmopolitan, Sharps, Gallager, Smith and Burnside
Joslyn, Starr, Lindner, Warner, Maynard and Merrill carbines
Ballard's rifled. Cal. .44 (takes metallic cartridge)
Burnside's rifled. Cal. .50
Spencer's Cal. .52 (hand-written onto form)
Cosmopolitan, rifled. Calibre .52 and Gwyn and Campbell carbine
Joslyn's rifled. Calibre .52
Gallager's rifled. Calibre .50
Gibbs' rifled. Calibre .52
Green's rifled. Calibre .54
Hall's rifled, Calibre .52
Lindner's. Calibre .58
Merrill's rifled. Calibre .54
Maynard's rifled. Calibre .50
Sharps' rifled. Calibre .52
Smith's rifled. Calibre .50
Starr's rifled. Calibre .54
Warner Carbine Calibre .56
Triplett & Scott carbine Calibre .56
Ball repeating carbine Calibre .50
Remington split breech Calibre .50
Lee carbine Calibre .50
Henry rifle Calibre .44
Volcanic rifle .44
Various revolving rifles
Various stocked revolvers
Tarpley carbine
Morse carbine Calibre .54
Keene carbine Calibre .54
Muzzle-loading carbines
English Artillery rifled. Calibre
English Sapper rifled, "Enfield" pattern. Calibre .577
French Rifled Carbines. Calibre .60
Pistol Carbine, rifled.
Musketoons, U.S. XXXX rifled.
Musketoons, English, smooth-bore.Last edited by gghbi; March 28th, 2019 at 06:38 PM.
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Re: NYTimes. We need smaller bullets
I now feel justified favoring my m1a and garand over my AR's.
Thank you clueless journalist.
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March 28th, 2019, 06:47 PM #13
Re: NYTimes. We need smaller bullets
Navy caliber revolvers were .36, Army caliber revolvers were .44. There would have also been .22's (cartridge guns) .31 caliber colts, .42 lemats and anything else available commercially privately owned by soldiers.
Basically the cap and ball equivalent to everything used today.
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March 28th, 2019, 07:17 PM #14
Re: NYTimes. We need smaller bullets
The new York Slimes, all the "news" that's fit to make up.
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Re: NYTimes. We need smaller bullets
So they're cool with .223?
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March 28th, 2019, 08:05 PM #17
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March 28th, 2019, 08:30 PM #19
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March 28th, 2019, 08:36 PM #20
Re: NYTimes. We need smaller bullets
Clueless propagandists.
The rights of the law-abiding are not limited by what the criminals would do. People own guns to stop predators, and "stopping power" matters. Telling some single mother that she's only allowed a 6-shot .22 to stop the 4 rapists who just kicked in her door, and she's only able to wound them so that they have to show up at a doctor's office a few hours later, after they've dumped her body and sold her daughters to the sex slave trade.....not so smart.
The yuppies at the NYT seem to be completely unaware that most people use guns legally. They also seem to believe that prior to the 1990's, the only guns in common use were "Saturday Night Specials", named that by racist Lefties from the ugly term "******town Saturday Night". Cheap, throwaway guns in smaller calibers that the cheap materials could survive, like .22 and .25 and .32.
The facts are that 90% of all non-head shot victims survive. That's pretty good for the "modern" auto-loading, larger-than-.22 weapons like the high-tech 1911 model of the .45, in common use for 108 years so far. The truth is that the law-abiding spent most of the 20th century opting between .38 .38 Special and .357 Magnum and .45 ACP, because they weren't buying cheap throwaway guns. Civilian guns tracked cop guns, and NO police department ever issued .22 caliber sidearms to their officers. Ever.
Try selling the idea of those 6-shot .22 revolvers as standard police sidearms. Let me know how well that goes over.
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