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    Default Re: Pittburgh City Council meeting...again

    Damn Those were the only 3 that i thought may vote against. Sad that only walter was there for our side.

    I watched that crazy Moms Mabley lady who spoke about AK47 from the previous city council gathering holler on and on - still not sure what she was saying though.

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    Default Re: Pittburgh City Council meeting...again

    How can they vote to break state law? Are there no consequences?

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    Default Re: Pittburgh City Council meeting...again

    I hope Josh Prince is watching this
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    Default Re: Pittburgh City Council meeting...again

    Well, by my calculations that will be seven (7) private criminal complaints made (the six council members that voted "Yea" plus the mayor when he approves the ordinance).

    Violation of Section 6120, Title 18
    Conspiracy to violate state law
    Official oppression
    Conspiracy to commit official oppression

    Any other charges?

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    Default Re: Pittburgh City Council meeting...again

    They'll probably try to claim legislative immunity. From my impression that only covers the discussion of such a bill, not its passage. Is that correct?

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    Default Re: Pittburgh City Council meeting...again

    Quote Originally Posted by KJP442 View Post
    They'll probably try to claim legislative immunity. From my impression that only covers the discussion of such a bill, not its passage. Is that correct?
    If they voted to castrate all southpaws, would they be immune?

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    Default Re: Pittburgh City Council meeting...again

    Quote Originally Posted by nick779 View Post
    Can any of you point to the "revised" bill text?

    The only one I could find was this: https://pittsburgh.legistar.com/Legi...rms&FullText=1

    and its still a blatant AWB.
    http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=346108

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    Default Re: Pittburgh City Council meeting...again

    https://triblive.com/local/pittsburg...posed-gun-ban/

    Peduto ready to fight challengers of Pittsburgh’s proposed gun ban

    Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto on Thursday said he is looking forward to a promised legal battle over the city’s proposed gun ban and plans to immediately sign the regulations into law once City Council approves them.

    Addressing the legislation for the first time in weeks, the mayor repeated a promise that the legal defense would cost taxpayers nothing. He said he has received commitments from a “team of attorneys both locally and nationally” to help the city fend off lawsuits and criminal complaints that Second Amendment advocates have vowed to file following passage of the bills.

    “Once council makes that final decision, I anticipate signing those documents within one week,” Peduto said. “I realize that there will be those that will challenge this legally. We have been provided pro bono legal assistance. There will be no cost to taxpayers for that challenge, and we look forward to it.”

    Council during a preliminary vote on Wednesday approved the legislation that would ban the use of military-style weapons, including assault rifles like the one used in October to kill 11 worshipers at Squirrel Hill’s Tree of Life synagogue. It would also ban certain firearms ammunition and accessories and permit courts to seize guns held by those deemed a public safety threat.

    Three council members – Anthony Coghill, Darlene Harris and Theresa Kail-Smith – voted no on the bills. Among other things, they cited the cost of litigation.

    Council is expected to pass the bills during a final vote on Tuesday.

    Peduto said the state Legislature “tied our hands behind our backs” in passing a law that banned municipalities from enacting gun regulations under penalty of possible criminal charges. He said elected officials are protected with legislative immunity from facing charges.

    “We believe not only is that law unconstitutional, it is un-American and un-Pennsyvanian,” he said.

    He acknowledged a Second Amendment right to bear arms, but said residents of dense urban settings like Pittsburgh also have a constitutional right to tranquility. Use of assault rifles violate that right, he said.

    “We have to be able to recognize that one person’s constitutional rights shouldn’t trample another person’s constitutional rights,” he said. “We’re not doing this as simply an exercise of trying to drum up support throughout the state, although that is part of the intent. What we’re doing is challenging the legality of the present rules and saying that there is a difference between law and justice. When we challenge laws for being unjust that’s how laws get changed.”

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    Default Re: Pittburgh City Council meeting...again

    Si vis pacem, para bellum
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    Default Re: Pittburgh City Council meeting...again

    Quote Originally Posted by internet troll View Post
    https://triblive.com/local/pittsburg...posed-gun-ban/

    Peduto ready to fight challengers of Pittsburgh’s proposed gun ban

    Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto on Thursday said he is looking forward to a promised legal battle over the city’s proposed gun ban and plans to immediately sign the regulations into law once City Council approves them.

    Addressing the legislation for the first time in weeks, the mayor repeated a promise that the legal defense would cost taxpayers nothing. He said he has received commitments from a “team of attorneys both locally and nationally” to help the city fend off lawsuits and criminal complaints that Second Amendment advocates have vowed to file following passage of the bills.

    “Once council makes that final decision, I anticipate signing those documents within one week,” Peduto said. “I realize that there will be those that will challenge this legally. We have been provided pro bono legal assistance. There will be no cost to taxpayers for that challenge, and we look forward to it.”

    Council during a preliminary vote on Wednesday approved the legislation that would ban the use of military-style weapons, including assault rifles like the one used in October to kill 11 worshipers at Squirrel Hill’s Tree of Life synagogue. It would also ban certain firearms ammunition and accessories and permit courts to seize guns held by those deemed a public safety threat.

    Three council members – Anthony Coghill, Darlene Harris and Theresa Kail-Smith – voted no on the bills. Among other things, they cited the cost of litigation.

    Council is expected to pass the bills during a final vote on Tuesday.

    Peduto said the state Legislature “tied our hands behind our backs” in passing a law that banned municipalities from enacting gun regulations under penalty of possible criminal charges. He said elected officials are protected with legislative immunity from facing charges.

    “We believe not only is that law unconstitutional, it is un-American and un-Pennsyvanian,” he said.

    He acknowledged a Second Amendment right to bear arms, but said residents of dense urban settings like Pittsburgh also have a constitutional right to tranquility. Use of assault rifles violate that right, he said.

    “We have to be able to recognize that one person’s constitutional rights shouldn’t trample another person’s constitutional rights,” he said. “We’re not doing this as simply an exercise of trying to drum up support throughout the state, although that is part of the intent. What we’re doing is challenging the legality of the present rules and saying that there is a difference between law and justice. When we challenge laws for being unjust that’s how laws get changed.”

    Bill Peduto can guzzle horse cum.
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