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  • Binary triggers

    18 43.90%
  • Enhanced after market triggers (Timney, Geiselle etc)

    5 12.20%
  • Pistol braces

    15 36.59%
  • Lower receivers

    3 7.32%
  • Unmarked lower receivers

    12 29.27%
  • All semi auto pistols that can be bump fired

    1 2.44%
  • All semi auto rifles that can be bump fired

    2 4.88%
  • All semi auto shotguns that can be bumpfired

    1 2.44%
  • All semi autos including 22's

    5 12.20%
  • Magazines in capacities greater than 10

    14 34.15%
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    Default Re: Bumpstock deadline date in 6 days

    Quote Originally Posted by spacemanvic View Post
    George Bush appointed judge Paul L Maloney just denied a preliminary injunction that GOA was pursuing regarding the bumpstock ban:
    Well that sucks.
    To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."

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    Default Re: Bumpstock deadline date in 6 days

    Quote Originally Posted by Handyandy View Post
    Well that sucks.
    They redefined what a machine gun is now, wonder what else they will redefine? Probably "in popular or common use".
    Hold the Line...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacemanvic View Post
    They redefined what a machine gun is now, wonder what else they will redefine? Probably "in popular or common use".
    Or "sporting purpose".
    Si vis pacem, para bellum
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    Default Re: Bumpstock deadline date in 6 days

    Legislators suck. Bureaucrats are much worse.

    The time is getting closer. Compliance is moot.

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    Default Re: Bumpstock deadline date in 6 days

    https://www.guns.com/news/2019/03/22...s9XXSy9ITP96oE
    The U.S. 10th Circuit on Thursday issued a temporary stay of the pending federal bump stock ban set to take effect next week.

    The stay comes in the case of Utah gun rights advocate W. Clark Aposhian, backed by the nonprofit New Civil Liberties Alliance, which takes issue with how government regulators moved to outlaw the devices last year. As such, it blocks enforcement, set to take effect on March 26, against Aposhian while his case is in the courts.

    “Today the Court of Appeals told the ATF that it could not rush through the bump stock ban without meaningful judicial review,” said Caleb Kruckenberg, NCLA’s litigation counsel, in a statement to Guns.com. “The Court understands the stakes and is refusing to let an innocent owner be declared a felon, as scheduled.”

    The lawsuit, filed in January in a Salt Lake City U.S. District Court, challenges the proper role of administrative agencies– such as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives– and whether their regulations may contradict a law passed by Congress, specifically the definition of a “machine gun” as set by lawmakers in 1934 and 1968. The case argues that ATF essentially rewrote the definition as set out by previous laws, something that was not in the agency’s power to do.

    Going back to 2017, regulators had researched federal law to determine if certain bump stock devices fall within the definition of “machine gun,” which led to President Trump last February to order the Department of Justice to craft regulations to “write out” the devices himself. Since then, the primary maker of bump stocks in the country stopped taking orders for the controversial devices, although they were still readily available from dealers until this week.
    "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"

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    WOO HOO! I'm going to install mine and fire it in celebration!
    Life has a melody. Not great, not terrible.

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    Rarely do I follow threads on arfcom, of which I'm not a member but if there was a stay issued then why aren't they talking about it and why is NOLO currently (as we speak) in court fighting the "last chance" for bump stocks?
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    Default Re: Bumpstock deadline date in 6 days

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Gixxer View Post
    Rarely do I follow threads on arfcom, of which I'm not a member but if there was a stay issued then why aren't they talking about it and why is NOLO currently (as we speak) in court fighting the "last chance" for bump stocks?
    This is the news release from last night.

    https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...h-Circuit.html

    Devil is in the details. This one man is protected against enforcement while his appeal is pending.
    "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"

    "He created the game, played the game, and lost the game.... All under his own terms, by his own doing." JW34

    "Tolerance is the lube that helps slip the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of a civilized society." Plato

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    Default Re: Bumpstock deadline date in 6 days

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    This is the news release from last night.

    https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...h-Circuit.html

    Devil is in the details. This one man is protected against enforcement while his appeal is pending.
    I knew something smelled funky. This whole thing makes my head spin.
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    Default Re: Bumpstock deadline date in 6 days

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    This is the news release from last night.

    https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...h-Circuit.html

    Devil is in the details. This one man is protected against enforcement while his appeal is pending.
    Yeah, that's the one case left in DC that was whittled down to one appellant in my post #50. Steve (Nolo) was on a radio show last night. Give it a listen, at the 42:30 is Steve's part

    https://espnky.com/rockcastle-gun-show-112/
    Last edited by spacemanvic; March 22nd, 2019 at 12:05 PM.
    Hold the Line...

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