Creepy Situation in the Woods

[icp4life162005]

What if it was Pagans MC in the woods? Still gonna chat?

Sure :-)

[Exbiker]

What if it was Pagans MC in the woods? Still gonna chat?

Probably, but I would do a quick assessment then engage them to get a feeling on the urgency of the situation. He said 2 cars in the lot when he left and I would hope he noted that there were 2 when he got there.

[DK23]

Are there still Blair Witch style rock piles near the reservoir shore? I haven't been on those trails for awhile, but there were 20-30 of them last time I was there. That was pretty creepy.

[ett]

And this is a classic example of why we need training in when it is legal to use 'deadly force', as the US Law Shield lawyer refers to it. According to their seminar you are in deep shit if you even pull your gun out if the other person does not have a lethal weapon in their hands and if they're too far away and you shoot it's even worse.

^^^ THIS ^^^

The use of deadly force comes down to one reasonably believing that if the force was not used, one would either die, or suffer great bodily harm, whether to one's self, or to another.

In the link Carson posted, the actor came across a scene, then revisited the scene where a person the actor felt concerned.

The actor was charged, then convicted of manslaughter, due to his actions.

Had this actor NOT had a firearm(legally) during this event, WOULD the actor have become involved?

Not necessarily in PA.
In PA there is no disparity of force. If the person(s) attacking you do not display a deadly weapon; you are in deep legal do-do if you use your weapon to defend yourself.

A friend's client was attacked in the parking lot of his business.
The three thugs who attacked the client had criminal records, were much larger, younger, better shape, knocked him to the ground, AND said they were going to harm the client.
The client pulled his gun and did not fire it; because that was enough to scare off the thugs.
BUT client is still being criminally charged by DA.

[icp4life162005]

^^^ THIS ^^^



Not necessarily in PA.
In PA there is no disparity of force. If the person(s) attacking you do not display a deadly weapon; you are in deep legal do-do if you use your weapon to defend yourself.

A friend's client was attacked in the parking lot of his business.
The three thugs who attacked the client had criminal records, were much larger, younger, better shape, knocked him to the ground, AND said they were going to harm the client.
The client pulled his gun and did not fire it; because that was enough to scare off the thugs.
BUT client is still being criminally changed by DA.

Rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
At least I still would have a chance at seeing my wife and daughter again.

[icp4life162005]

^^^ THIS ^^^



Not necessarily in PA.
In PA there is no disparity of force. If the person(s) attacking you do not display a deadly weapon; you are in deep legal do-do if you use your weapon to defend yourself.

A friend's client was attacked in the parking lot of his business.
The three thugs who attacked the client had criminal records, were much larger, younger, better shape, knocked him to the ground, AND said they were going to harm the client.
The client pulled his gun and did not fire it; because that was enough to scare off the thugs.
BUT client is still being criminally changed by DA.

The problem isn't the victim it's the DA.

[Just1more]

^^^ THIS ^^^



Not necessarily in PA.
In PA there is no disparity of force. If the person(s) attacking you do not display a deadly weapon; you are in deep legal do-do if you use your weapon to defend yourself.

A friend's client was attacked in the parking lot of his business.
The three thugs who attacked the client had criminal records, were much larger, younger, better shape, knocked him to the ground, AND said they were going to harm the client.
The client pulled his gun and did not fire it; because that was enough to scare off the thugs.
BUT client is still being criminally changed by DA.

Ok so I am confused on this - if he scared the thugs off, who is charging him and why?

[john9001]

How did the DA find out about the attack? The victim didn't report it did he? He better hope for jury nullification.

[Walleye Hunter]

^^^ THIS ^^^



Not necessarily in PA.
In PA there is no disparity of force. If the person(s) attacking you do not display a deadly weapon; you are in deep legal do-do if you use your weapon to defend yourself.

A friend's client was attacked in the parking lot of his business.
The three thugs who attacked the client had criminal records, were much larger, younger, better shape, knocked him to the ground, AND said they were going to harm the client.
The client pulled his gun and did not fire it; because that was enough to scare off the thugs.
BUT client is still being criminally changed by DA.

And even if he wins the process sucks.

[Walleye Hunter]

Rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
At least I still would have a chance at seeing my wife and daughter again.

It still sucks that he has to be judged by 12 in that situation.