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    Default Why can't we carry in state capitol building?

    I know it's been covered here, but I think in a thread.

    Why can't we carry in the state capitol building?


    Also, I can't find anything prohibiting in general for police stations. Are police stations off limits?
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    Default Re: Why can't we carry in state capitol building?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinHEMI View Post
    I know it's been covered here, but I think in a thread.

    Why can't we carry in the state capitol building?


    Also, I can't find anything prohibiting in general for police stations. Are police stations off limits?
    I believe that the Supreme Court is in that building. But, I have never been in that Court so cannot speak from actual knowledge. Peduto is going to be there though.

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    Default Re: Why can't we carry in state capitol building?

    I believe that you can carry in a police station, just not in what would be considered the secure part. You should be able to walk into the lobby carrying, but if you go beyond the secured doors you'd have to be disarmed. I think it's in the law because of the potential of prisoners there and holding cells.
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    Default Re: Why can't we carry in state capitol building?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilderness 1864 View Post
    I believe that the Supreme Court is in that building. But, I have never been in that Court so cannot speak from actual knowledge. Peduto is going to be there though.
    I thought the Supreme Court moved out of there?
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    Default Re: Why can't we carry in state capitol building?

    https://lancasteronline.com/news/loc...76b327689.html

    At least a dozen Pennsylvania lawmakers carry guns on the House and Senate floors — though weapons are banned in the building

    What the law says
    The 1995 law prohibiting guns in public buildings with courtrooms also applies to the Capitol because the structure is home to a courtroom occasionally used by the Pennsylvania appellate courts, Department of General Services spokesman Thompson said.
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    Default Re: Why can't we carry in state capitol building?

    Yeah I was led to believe that the court stuff is BS these days, but I don't know, which is why I asked.
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    Default Re: Why can't we carry in state capitol building?

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinHEMI View Post
    Yeah I was led to believe that the court stuff is BS these days, but I don't know, which is why I asked.
    What's BS is that the legislators believe they're above the prohibition we all must abide by.
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    Default Re: Why can't we carry in state capitol building?

    It's not the whole building, it's in any “court facility”, defined as:  

    "The courtroom of a court of record;  a courtroom of a community court;  the courtroom of a magisterial district judge;  a courtroom of the Philadelphia Municipal Court;  a courtroom of the Pittsburgh Magistrates Court;  a courtroom of the Traffic Court of Philadelphia;  judge's chambers;  witness rooms;  jury deliberation rooms;  attorney conference rooms;  prisoner holding cells;  offices of court clerks, the district attorney, the sheriff and probation and parole officers;  and any adjoining corridors."

    That being said, I wouldn't push it, you'll be going against the deputies who work for the govt, police who work for the govt, and your case will be decided by judges who work for the govt and sit in the building that you're challenging. Hard to imagine a more uphill fight. Plus they have metal detectors that define the area they've decided is gun-free.
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    Default Re: Why can't we carry in state capitol building?

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    It's not the whole building, it's in any “court facility”, defined as:  

    "The courtroom of a court of record;  a courtroom of a community court;  the courtroom of a magisterial district judge;  a courtroom of the Philadelphia Municipal Court;  a courtroom of the Pittsburgh Magistrates Court;  a courtroom of the Traffic Court of Philadelphia;  judge's chambers;  witness rooms;  jury deliberation rooms;  attorney conference rooms;  prisoner holding cells;  offices of court clerks, the district attorney, the sheriff and probation and parole officers;  and any adjoining corridors."

    That being said, I wouldn't push it, you'll be going against the deputies who work for the govt, police who work for the govt, and your case will be decided by judges who work for the govt and sit in the building that you're challenging. Hard to imagine a more uphill fight. Plus they have metal detectors that define the area they've decided is gun-free.
    And on top of this, even if a person were to challenge, and was successful up to the PA Superior Court - that court is predominantly liberal, and so is the Supreme Court.

    I'd wager a box of ammo that a challenger would lose, and fuck us over even more.
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    Default Re: Why can't we carry in state capitol building?

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    It's not the whole building, it's in any “court facility”, defined as:  

    "The courtroom of a court of record;  a courtroom of a community court;  the courtroom of a magisterial district judge;  a courtroom of the Philadelphia Municipal Court;  a courtroom of the Pittsburgh Magistrates Court;  a courtroom of the Traffic Court of Philadelphia;  judge's chambers;  witness rooms;  jury deliberation rooms;  attorney conference rooms;  prisoner holding cells;  offices of court clerks, the district attorney, the sheriff and probation and parole officers;  and any adjoining corridors."
    And the court in the Jefferson County case ruled that "any adjoining corridors" was the whole building.

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