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Thread: Slide Release or Rack It?
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February 8th, 2019, 10:09 AM #71
Re: Slide Release or Rack It?
So a question to those who do not like or agree with the "rack" technique to get the gun into battery - how do you load a round into the chamber from an empty gun that has the slide in the forward position?
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February 8th, 2019, 10:19 AM #72
Re: Slide Release or Rack It?
1. Polish the feed ramp.
2. Use round nose FMJ.
3. Check the tension and drag on the lips of your mags. Adjust as needed.
I have a Keltec P32 and I did a "fluff and buff" on it and it runs perfect 100% of the time. I run both FMJ Round nose and Critical Defense hollow points.Toujours prêt
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February 8th, 2019, 10:25 AM #73
Re: Slide Release or Rack It?
And this is the only way that I have been taught by every instructor.
As an overview, these trainers do this for a living.
They train people who dont know what they dont know through different depts of law enforcement and in some cases, military.
Every gun, every time.
Full rearward extension of the slide. Just like Scruff described. That will.give you the most consistent stripping of a round and chambering.
Just another question.
Those of you who use the slide stop as a release, have you been instructed this manner by the people who trained you or has this been a self taught method?
If a trainer instructed you to do this, have your other instructors taught the same method?Opinions are like anal apertures. They all stink but mine.
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February 8th, 2019, 10:28 AM #74Grand Member
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Re: Slide Release or Rack It?
Practice both ways,and also disabled arm/hand racking slide on pockets and what ever is available,that it why I have steel sights on my Glocks.
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February 8th, 2019, 11:26 AM #75
Re: Slide Release or Rack It?
At least for 1911s, USGI field manual FM23-35, page 11, section IV, paragraph 12 (Method of Operation) states: "A fully loaded magazine is placed in the receiver and the slide drawn fully back and released, thus bringing the first cartridge into the chamber. If the slide is open push down on the slide stop to let the slide go forward."
I point that out only to show that it's probably been taught to a lot of people for the past 80 years, not that there aren't improvements made in the way things are done.
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February 8th, 2019, 11:42 AM #76
Re: Slide Release or Rack It?
It's something that my father taught me when I was just a little nipper and .32 was the biggest thing he would let me shoot and I have used that method all my life. The idea of racking with the left hand was all new to me. I don't own a litany of weapons but none of those that I own have failed me using the slide release. This is the first instructor I ever had so I have nothing to compare it to and that is the reason for posing the question to you folks here. My H&K manual says that it's users choice and the release is very conveniently located. As to whether it's a 'slide lock' or a 'slide release', I would call the part in the rail a lock and the thumb lever a release.
Thanks again for everyone's input, I appreciate it.Gender confusion is a mental illness
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February 8th, 2019, 12:23 PM #77
Re: Slide Release or Rack It?
LOTS of different instructors over the last 30+ years for me. Different instructors taught different methods - over the top, sling shot, and slide release lever.
Its up to the user - to decide what is best for him or her. As long as one knows the pros and cons to the different methods, and decides which method works best for him or her with the weapon system that they have decided on using for themselves. And for the purpose that they are using it for.
I always get a kick when someone, anyone really; says "This is the way", nope, "This is a way" or "This is one way to do it".
Same thing with Tactical Reloads, over the years I've learned 4 different methods from again, different instructors/schools/etc... I use one method, my wife uses another one. When we teach, we show the different methods, point out the strengths and weaknesses of each and let the user decide.Tomorrow's battle is won during today's practice.
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February 8th, 2019, 02:31 PM #78
Re: Slide Release or Rack It?
I have shot 1,000's of rounds out of my factory Glock 17 Gen3 by using the Slide Release, never had trouble and have never changed a part on the entire gun. My recent upgrade purchase to a Glock 17 Gen5 will receive the same punishment.
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February 8th, 2019, 02:36 PM #79
Re: Slide Release or Rack It?
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February 8th, 2019, 03:35 PM #80
Re: Slide Release or Rack It?
What do you do if your gun doesn't have a slide release? Do you still use the slide release?
Last edited by JenniferG; February 8th, 2019 at 03:44 PM.
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