Pittsburgh City Council Hearing date set

[Walleye Hunter]

The long story short is that they disregarded everything anyone said and said they're moving forward anyway. The meeting was a complete waste of time to give the People the illusion of having a say in what their rogue and tyrannical government does.

As expected here as well.

Kims comment was taken out of context in my opinion- he was saying how carrying a firearm wasn't allowed in the synagogue - so basically why wasn't there protection for their patrons. The paper really twisted it. O'Connor arrived late spoke for maybe 3 minutes and left shortly afterwards - arrogant as was Kraus.
I felt like our panel was talking to distracted - entering/leaving council members who also were having their own private discussions rudely while our panel were trying to speak. It was disgusting to me.

Perhaps Councilwoman Harris and Kail-Smith will be considering the discussion by our panel members and possibly Council Coghill but the rest already had their minds made up.
The council just kept skipping out till finally their seats were almost all empty.

We need a 'Truth in Reporting' Act to stop this bullshit. If they want to report they need to report the story properly and with integrity.

[Just1more]

One councilman - Coghill i believe kept calling firearms automatic till he was corrected then said all semi autos should be banned. One of the councilmen (forget which) discounted Lotts charts saying all data can be fudged to what they want to say.
Also the question was directed to Councilwoman Strassburger (who was planning on leaving the meeting shortly) is being they want to ban certain guns - why wouldn't they be banning all guns (forget the wording exactly) She did not answer but upped herself and exited.

[stainless]

Of the Elite, By the Elite, For the Elite.

[Wilderness 1864]

One councilman - Coghill i believe kept calling firearms automatic till he was corrected then said all semi autos should be banned. One of the councilmen (forget which) discounted Lotts charts saying all data can be fudged to what they want to say.
Also the question was directed to Councilwoman Strassburger (who was planning on leaving the meeting shortly) is being they want to ban certain guns - why wouldn't they be banning all guns (forget the wording exactly) She did not answer but upped herself and exited.

Again, what you saw happen to John Lott is the only way that the lefties can deal with him. His academic work is out there and no one has laid an honest glove on it. I would love to see video of the tyrants storming out and fearing being photographed and taped. That is what citizens need to see. The mainstream media has a ton of power but does not entirely control the narrative, yet.

The one councilman who could not be bothered with the distinction between auto and semi auto finally defaulted to ban semi autos, intentionally or not, revealed the the true agenda. Ban those, then start taking any high power rifle that can be fitted with a scope as a sniper rifle, then semi auto shotguns, then shotguns under a certain length, then all shotguns. You know, "progressive", just like the Anti-Constitution crowd likes to call themselves.

Finally, I would rally in Pittsburgh again if they pass this mess as it seems they are hell bent on doing.

[Justin///M]

Again, what you saw happen to John Lott is the only way that the lefties can deal with him. His academic work is out there and no one has laid an honest glove on it. I would love to see video of the tyrants storming out and fearing being photographed and taped. That is what citizens need to see. The mainstream media has a ton of power but does not entirely control the narrative, yet.

The one councilman who could not be bothered with the distinction between auto and semi auto finally defaulted to ban semi autos, intentionally or not, revealed the the true agenda. Ban those, then start taking any high power rifle that can be fitted with a scope as a sniper rifle, then semi auto shotguns, then shotguns under a certain length, then all shotguns. You know, "progressive", just like the Anti-Constitution crowd likes to call themselves.

Finally, I would rally in Pittsburgh again if they pass this mess as it seems they are hell bent on doing.

Yep, all the facebook comments on the various news sources reporting on his statements are nothing but person attacks and specious arguments.

[Wilderness 1864]

As expected here as well.

We need a 'Truth in Reporting' Act to stop this bullshit. If they want to report they need to report the story properly and with integrity.

The press reporting on this after the rally was been not as uniformly bad as I had expected. But as these bills come closer to adoption, sides are going to be taken and the media will become the eager and willing weapon of the Mayor and the Council. The PennLive report was a small example. Kim's comment"taken out of context"?, of course. The disinformation, outright lies, and selective coverage are going to become the norm and it helps to understand that and take it in stride. The Second Amendment Community has never got a fair shake in the print and broadcast media. Now digital media is ganging up and deplatforming and censoring the Second Amendment Community. But new free speech platforms are developing to counter Twitter and You Tube. So examples of bad political behavior will make the rounds.

[K.C.]

[longcall911]

So, what are we going to do about it?

The reality is that progressives will continue to be elected to city council because the major cities (Philly, P-burgh, Allentown) are majority Democrat in terms of voter registration.

In a democrat controlled city, our only recourse is to sue if in fact they pass unlawful ordinances (and they will, for sure).

It can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to pursue this legally. I don't think that we at PAFOA could come up with more than a few thousand. So, we can support FOAC/PrinceLaw (even though some have us have issues with things previously done & said) and we could ask some of the national orgs to get involved directly. Forget the NRA. They have their own thing which may or may not include p-burgh. GOA will listen to our request. The Second Amendment Foundation will listen. And JPFO will listen. I think we need to be reaching out to those three. (anyone willing?)

That said, we really can't do anything legally until the ordinances are actually passed. We can then ask the DA to prosecute, and begin building a coalition of the above organizations to file private criminal and civil complaints.

Ultimately, if any such case is brought forward, the appeal process would end with the PA Supreme Court. The problem... The PA Supreme Court is made up of 5 democrats and 2 republicans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...#Current_Bench)

[Justin///M]

Well, I, for one, am going to defy their laws openly and publicly the day they go into force.

[Wilderness 1864]

Thanks for posting the video.