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    Default Re: SCOTUS 2A Case 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Qtrborecrazy View Post
    I need a few more months to become a septuagenarian. Why do you make me look up these big words, old fart ain’t good enough?
    And this old fart made you look up "septuagenarian." Gotcha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    That must be one of those things that is a matter of opinion as I have heard others who feel the same way. But I disagree, the right to own and bear arms is no more a human right than the right to healthcare. If you have something that proves differently I would be happy to review it.
    The bill of rights is a restriction on the powers of government, not a grant of privilages to the people. That's why it's the bill of rights and not the bill of privilages.

    And the right to be armed is a natural right, we as people have the right to be armed to defend ourselves and others from harm that would be inflicted upon us - whether it be with a rock, a stick, a knife, or a gun. Now you don't have the right to use it in a non-defensive manner since that causes harm - but just keeping and bearing doesn't harm anyone else.

    Read the language of the BOR - Congress shall pass no law, the right of the people shall not be infringed, cruel punishments shall not be administered - it's all restrictions on the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinR View Post
    The bill of rights is a restriction on the powers of government, not a grant of privilages to the people. That's why it's the bill of rights and not the bill of privilages.

    And the right to be armed is a natural right, we as people have the right to be armed to defend ourselves and others from harm that would be inflicted upon us - whether it be with a rock, a stick, a knife, or a gun. Now you don't have the right to use it in a non-defensive manner since that causes harm - but just keeping and bearing doesn't harm anyone else.

    Read the language of the BOR - Congress shall pass no law, the right of the people shall not be infringed, cruel punishments shall not be administered - it's all restrictions on the government.
    This. Exactly right.
    I am not a lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinR View Post
    The bill of rights is a restriction on the powers of government, not a grant of privilages to the people. That's why it's the bill of rights and not the bill of privilages.

    And the right to be armed is a natural right, we as people have the right to be armed to defend ourselves and others from harm that would be inflicted upon us - whether it be with a rock, a stick, a knife, or a gun. Now you don't have the right to use it in a non-defensive manner since that causes harm - but just keeping and bearing doesn't harm anyone else.

    Read the language of the BOR - Congress shall pass no law, the right of the people shall not be infringed, cruel punishments shall not be administered - it's all restrictions on the government.
    People don't realize that there's a snowball effect here. They're so quick to give government access to the BOR because of their views and they don't understand they're opening Pandora's box.

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    Founders Intention for Government - Constitutional Carry
    http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=203306


    Let's hope, with the current direction of the court, that we are getting BACK TO the original founding principles!

    ...
    Last edited by ImminentDanger; May 9th, 2019 at 10:00 PM.

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    In my honest opinion, if you can pass an instant federal background check and you’re licensed to carry, no where should be off limits.
    This includes airplanes, schools, and federal buildings. If you had a few licensed gun owners on those planes on 9/11, 3000 innocent Americans wouldn’t have died a torturous death.

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    Take it from Pinocchio, if your free you need no strings.
    The Gun is the Badge of a Free Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will3212 View Post
    In my honest opinion, if you can pass an instant federal background check and you’re licensed to carry, no where should be off limits.
    This includes airplanes, schools, and federal buildings. If you had a few licensed gun owners on those planes on 9/11, 3000 innocent Americans wouldn’t have died a torturous death.
    At a minimum, at any location where your right to carry is infringed, those who decided to disarm you should provide adequate armed security.

    Why do all the spree shooters target schools, and not courthouses, when ordinary citizens are legally disarmed in both places? Because courthouses are full of armed deputies and cops, and schools have all the safeguards of cattle in a slaughterhouse.

    I agree that schools should allow armed adults who have passed the LTCF checks. Not so sure about courthouses, a lot of people get very upset in those places and are more likely to shoot up the judge or the DA or their ex-wife or their own lawyer. Almost everyone in court is 100% certain that justice requires them to win, and if they lose (as half of them do), it's an intolerable evil that must be avenged with blood and honor.

    Give me a head start by making them go to their car to get a gun before they can hunt me down. OK, maybe not me, most of my clients are happy (or Sneezy, or Doc). But I have a good friend who does family law, and I don't want her facing an armed dude who just had his kids given to his evil bitch of an ex-wife.
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