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    Default Most guns used by criminals were illegally obtained

    From a DOJ study released this month
    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf

    An estimated 287,400 prisoners had possessed a
    firearm during their offense. Among these, more than
    half (56%) had either:
    stolen it (6%),
    found it at the scene of the crime (7%), or
    obtained it off the street or from the underground market (43%).
    Most of the remainder (25%) had obtained it from a family
    member or friend, or as a gift. Seven percent had
    purchased it under their own name from a licensed
    firearm dealer.
    Tell us again how background checks are going to make us safer.

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    Default Re: Most guns used by criminals were illegally obtained

    Wait a minute, wait a minute here. Are you suggesting that criminals don't obey the law?

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    Default Re: Most guns used by criminals were illegally obtained

    They need to pass a law making it illegal for criminals to use/possess stolen firearms while committing crimes.
    Last edited by abner13; January 21st, 2019 at 05:29 PM.
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    Default Re: Most guns used by criminals were illegally obtained

    But...but...that ain't fair. You can't always tell that a gun has been stolen. And....and...criminals are afraid to ask police, cause police don't treat criminals nice.

    C'mon....let's be reasonable here.
    There are two kinds of guns. Those I have acquired, and those I hope to.

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    Default Re: Most guns used by criminals were illegally obtained

    Quote Originally Posted by bug View Post
    Wait a minute, wait a minute here. Are you suggesting that criminals don't obey the law?
    Suggesting, insinuating, intimating, inducing, deducing, flat out stating, repeating, broadcasting when possible - so, yes.

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    Default Re: Most guns used by criminals were illegally obtained

    You gun lovers are so fucking stupid it hurts.

    Once we ban all your precious guns and make you melt them down to make a monument to honor David Hogg, there won't BE any guns to steal, and there will be no more crime, or murders!

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    Default Re: Most guns used by criminals were illegally obtained

    So we make everyone feel good by calling them illegal guns, rather than guns obtained illegally. One places the illegal activity on the gun, prompting oh-so-socially conscious officials to enact laws to protect us from them durn criminal guns; the other properly places the illegal activity on criminals, who we shouldn't blame, of course, since they might feel bad about themselves...

    Go Hogg wild - grind 'em up!!!
    Marty near God's Country. Making good people defenseless doesn’t make bad people harmless.

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    Default Re: Most guns used by criminals were illegally obtained

    It appears that 7% of the criminals are dumber than the remaining 93%.

    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
    America must suffer until it reaches the point that Liberty is more important than Comforts.

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    Default Re: Most guns used by criminals were illegally obtained

    Quote Originally Posted by FJRMarty View Post
    So we make everyone feel good by calling them illegal guns, rather than guns obtained illegally. One places the illegal activity on the gun, prompting oh-so-socially conscious officials to enact laws to protect us from them durn criminal guns; the other properly places the illegal activity on criminals, who we shouldn't blame, of course, since they might feel bad about themselves...

    Go Hogg wild - grind 'em up!!!
    Let's try 'undocumented guns'.

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    Default Re: Most guns used by criminals were illegally obtained

    They should actually enforce straw purchases and or, make it harsher to not report lost/stolen guns. (Not sure how to balance the last part)
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