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    Default Dr. John Lott on Pittsburgh's Proposed Ordinance

    This is an opinion piece from John Lott. I know for a fact that he sent this piece to the Post Gazette before the rally. I never saw it appear in the PG so they apparently are squarely on the side of the gun grabbers and Pedildo.

    Problems with Pittsburgh's proposed gun control ordinance
    JOHN R. LOTT JR. | Tuesday, Jan. 15, 2019, 11:33 a.m..

    Pennsylvania’s 1.3 million concealed handgun permit holders may soon be considered criminals while visiting Pittsburgh. The proposed gun control ordinance bans everything from so-called assault weapons to starter pistols for track meets.

    The ordinance prohibits citizens from carrying guns except on their property or in their homes or “fixed place of business.” There is an exception to the ban that would allow permit holders to carry, but there is just one problem. The exception clause refers to and depends on a nonexistent statute.

    Is this an honest mistake or an underhanded way to ban concealed carry? The mayor and city council members have been informed of the “mistake” multiple times, but have refused to rewrite the ordinance. The result will be a ban on carrying guns for any reason outside of one’s home or business.

    If you don’t have that permit, you will be committing a crime by taking a gun from a gun store to your home. Pittsburgh police could simply wait in gun store parking lots and arrest most of the people when they leave the store.

    But the ban doesn’t stop at real guns. It also encompasses, “Any toy, antique, starter pistol or other object that bears a reasonable resemblance to an operable firearm, or any object that impels a projectile by means of a spinning action, compression or CO2 cartridge.” Your 10-year-old son will be committing a crime by carrying a brightly-colored Nerf gun. No one would ever confuse such a toy with a real gun, but it fires a foam projectile and is thus covered by the ordinance.

    Some parts of the ordinance are useless, such as the requirement that people show a photo ID to any individual or business that they buy ammunition from. Even assuming that the seller remembers whom he sold the ammunition to, what would the police do with that information?

    The assault weapons ban is just as pointless. It is modeled after the federal ban that was in place from September 1994 to September 2004. Peer-reviewed papers by economists and criminologists have failed to find a benefit from the federal law.

    None of the weapons banned under the 1994 legislation or the proposed Pittsburgh ordinance are “military” weapons. The killer at the Pittsburgh synagogue used a Colt AR-15 rifle and three Glock .357 handguns. The Colt AR-15 bears a cosmetic resemblance to the M-16, which has been used by the U.S. military since the Vietnam War. The call has frequently been made by Gov. Tom Wolf and Mayor Bill Peduto there is “no reason” for such “military-style weapons” to be available to civilians.

    Yes, the Colt AR-15 rifle is a “military-style weapon.” But the key word is “style” — it is cosmetically similar to military guns, not in the way it operates. The guns covered by the federal ban and the proposed ordinance are not the fully automatic machine guns used by the military, but semiautomatic versions of those guns.

    At least there would be some logic to banning all semiautomatic guns, rather than listing specific models to ban based on how they look. Semiautomatic weapons also protect people and save lives. Single-shot rifles may not do a lot of good when facing multiple criminals or when a first shot misses or fails to stop an attacker.

    Pittsburgh’s proposed ordinance is poorly written. Possibly that was the intent so as to create an even more extensive set of gun bans than anyone intended, but the real victims will be the defenseless law-abiding citizens of Pittsburgh.

    John R. Lott Jr. is president of the Crime Prevention Research Center and author of “More Guns, Less Crime” (University of Chicago Press, 2010).

    https://triblive.com/opinion/feature...trol-ordinance

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    Default Re: Dr. John Lott on Pittsburgh's Proposed Ordinance

    Good to see someone posted it.
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    Default Re: Dr. John Lott on Pittsburgh's Proposed Ordinance

    Quote Originally Posted by BobFromBucks View Post
    This is an opinion piece from John Lott. I know for a fact that he sent this piece to the Post Gazette before the rally. I never saw it appear in the PG so they apparently are squarely on the side of the gun grabbers and Pedildo.

    Problems with Pittsburgh's proposed gun control ordinance
    JOHN R. LOTT JR. | Tuesday, Jan. 15, 2019, 11:33.

    Big assed snip..
    The P-G has always been the leftist cage-floor-liner we see today. The long gone Pittsburgh Press was the moderate paper, as was the Tribune Review.

    Frankly it doesn’t matter to gits like Little Cory Connor or Pedildo and their ilk; they want all guns banned. Forget the BS argument over what a gun looks like or it’s mechanics.
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    Default Re: Dr. John Lott on Pittsburgh's Proposed Ordinance

    Wonder why these protectors of children never considered the problem of child porn created by automatic cameras having electronic images that need no negative and are, in effect, ghost cameras.
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    Default Re: Dr. John Lott on Pittsburgh's Proposed Ordinance

    Quote Originally Posted by Bang View Post
    Wonder why these protectors of children never considered the problem of child porn created by automatic cameras having electronic images that need no negative and are, in effect, ghost cameras.
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    Default Re: Dr. John Lott on Pittsburgh's Proposed Ordinance

    It bugs me when gun guys say things like: an AR15 is only cosmetically similar to an M16. It's the same exact firearm, except that it can't fire more than one bullet per trigger press. It is dishonest to say that an AR is "cosmetically similar to military guns, not in the way it operates."

    I understand the desire to clarify that an AR is not a machine gun, but there are less deceptive ways to communicate that information.

    It is also the wrong point to argue, since the founders would have intended us all to be capable of owning the legit full auto versions that our military have instead been allowed to monopolize.

    Furthermore, your typical soldier is fighting with his weapon in semi in all but a few specific circumstances. Pretending like our guns are neutered and harmless is just the wrong angle.

    The righteous argument is that all firearms are deadly and the point of the second amendment is that maintaining a free society necessitates entrusting citizens with potentially dangerous weapons, because the alternative is to be subjugated by folks with those weapons.

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    Default Re: Dr. John Lott on Pittsburgh's Proposed Ordinance

    Gun control works. A female stabbed another female in Philly today. No guns used. Perfect!!
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    Default Re: Dr. John Lott on Pittsburgh's Proposed Ordinance

    Quote Originally Posted by marinville View Post
    It bugs me when gun guys say things like: an AR15 is only cosmetically similar to an M16. It's the same exact firearm, except that it can't fire more than one bullet per trigger press. It is dishonest to say that an AR is "cosmetically similar to military guns, not in the way it operates."
    But the gun grabbers conflate "assault weapon" with "machine gun" to the point where those who don't know better think all are machine guns. (There's even a Bloomburg interview where he made that claim on camera. To her credit, the interviewer corrected him.)

    By the time we get past "not the same", the sheeple will tune out anything else we have to say, so best to start there.

    Full disclosure: I don't disagree with your line of thinking, even brought it up last weekend with other PotG, but if we can only get a sound bite on the news, that's not the worst one.

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    Default Re: Dr. John Lott on Pittsburgh's Proposed Ordinance

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt.K View Post
    But the gun grabbers conflate "assault weapon" with "machine gun" to the point where those who don't know better think all are machine guns. (There's even a Bloomburg interview where he made that claim on camera. To her credit, the interviewer corrected him.)

    By the time we get past "not the same", the sheeple will tune out anything else we have to say, so best to start there.

    Full disclosure: I don't disagree with your line of thinking, even brought it up last weekend with other PotG, but if we can only get a sound bite on the news, that's not the worst one.

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    My thoughts exactly, including agreeing with the sentiment originally expressed.
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    Default Re: Dr. John Lott on Pittsburgh's Proposed Ordinance

    It bugs me that we beat around the bush on the true meaning of the 2nd. It is for personal protection, national security and defense against tyranny. Is isn't because the deer were coming.
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