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    Default Re: Magpul Exec. Duane Liptak open letter about the NRA

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    The most humorous are those in NY, NJ, CA et al that rail against the ineffective NRA while continuing to live in and pay taxes to a state that has raped them in regards to their 2A rights. They always have "reasons" why paying their tyrants is in their best interest, get mad at those that have moved away for more favorable conditions and bitch, bitch, bitch about their misfortune.
    I avoid beating up on some of these people because they are behind the lines and doing the best they can and in some cases trying to escape and some do. We are pretty much getting to the point of slave states and free states and PA is not all that solid to remain as it is. I've been thinking about what I would do if PA went full NJ retard. Stay and fight, bail out and leave my whole life behind, what I do not know yet.

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    Default Re: Magpul Exec. Duane Liptak open letter about the NRA

    PA has a lock on electronic voting machines that ensure the state will soon become a New Jersey like blue state hell. Like Stalin used to say "it matters little who votes, it only matters who counts the votes".
    Last edited by JenniferG; January 14th, 2019 at 09:55 PM.
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    Default Re: Magpul Exec. Duane Liptak open letter about the NRA

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    Shall not be infringed is a great T-shirt slogan, an applause getter at rallies and conventions and something not one of us practices in reality.
    Damn. That really just gave me a wide range of emotions.

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    Default Re: Magpul Exec. Duane Liptak open letter about the NRA

    Quote Originally Posted by unclejumbo View Post
    And what have you done since it clearly has been infringed. Have you started shooting at the tyrants? If not, why are you compromising, why are you willing to accept things as they are? Because everyone does a cost/benefit analysis, even about supposedly unassailable rights. We all compromise but vilify the NRA for supposedly compromising.

    The most humorous are those in NY, NJ, CA et al that rail against the ineffective NRA while continuing to live in and pay taxes to a state that has raped them in regards to their 2A rights. They always have "reasons" why paying their tyrants is in their best interest, get mad at those that have moved away for more favorable conditions and bitch, bitch, bitch about their misfortune.

    Shall not be infringed is a great T-shirt slogan, an applause getter at rallies and conventions and something not one of us practices in reality.
    To put it simply the NRA is "compromising "

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    Default Re: Magpul Exec. Duane Liptak open letter about the NRA

    Quote Originally Posted by 57springer View Post
    To put it simply the NRA is "compromising "
    As are you, and everyone else here. It would be hypocritical for me to condemn our greatest ally.
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    Default Re: Magpul Exec. Duane Liptak open letter about the NRA

    The rebuttal if anyone wants to read it:

    https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/cri...#axzz5couNIysr
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    My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685

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    Default Re: Magpul Exec. Duane Liptak open letter about the NRA

    Quote Originally Posted by ExFlyinguy View Post
    The rebuttal if anyone wants to read it:

    https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/cri...#axzz5couNIysr
    Sounds like some of those higher up's be living in the swap with the other rats but why change a good thing now.....

    And that's all I have to say about that.

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    Default Re: Magpul Exec. Duane Liptak open letter about the NRA

    Quote Originally Posted by ExFlyinguy View Post
    The rebuttal if anyone wants to read it:

    https://www.ammoland.com/2019/01/cri...#axzz5couNIysr
    That doesn't appear to be a rebuttal of the Magpul guy's letter, it's addressed to Marion Hammer's critique.

    I'd also note that anyone posting all over the Web "you shouldn't contribute a dime to the NRA or be a member" is not someone who is critiquing certain individuals in NRA management, they are people trying to destroy the NRA.
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    Default Re: Magpul Exec. Duane Liptak open letter about the NRA

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    That doesn't appear to be a rebuttal of the Magpul guy's letter, it's addressed to Marion Hammer's critique.

    I'd also note that anyone posting all over the Web "you shouldn't contribute a dime to the NRA or be a member" is not someone who is critiquing certain individuals in NRA management, they are people trying to destroy the NRA.
    That's overly dramatic shaming.

    If the NRA goes downhill, it's due to what the NRA has done, not because a couple thousand people opted not to renew their memberships. The NRA appears not to have a revenue problem but a spending problem among other things. Like many organizations it needs a reboot and some new blood.

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    Default Re: Magpul Exec. Duane Liptak open letter about the NRA

    Quote Originally Posted by wanneroo View Post
    That's overly dramatic shaming.

    If the NRA goes downhill, it's due to what the NRA has done, not because a couple thousand people opted not to renew their memberships. The NRA appears not to have a revenue problem but a spending problem among other things. Like many organizations it needs a reboot and some new blood.
    The headline of the linked "rebuttal" is:

    Criticizing NRA Executives is NOT “Attacking the NRA”

    No shaming on my part, I merely pointed out that this is inapplicable to people overtly trying to kill the NRA. You disagree?
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