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January 12th, 2019, 12:05 PM #41
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NRA membership costs less than 10 pennies per day. Join all the national groups. Do your own thinking. But remember that Congress only fears 1 pro-gun organization, Schumer and Pelosi only attack 1 pro-gun organization. Anyone "on our side" who works to destroy the NRA is helping Schumer and Pelosi and Bloomberg and that little pimple Hogg.
Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
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January 12th, 2019, 12:51 PM #42
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January 13th, 2019, 12:04 AM #43
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I am sticking with the NRA and will not trash talk them. They have done a good job on the whole.
Right now, the anti-Constitution forces have switched strategy to mount a nationwide assault at the state and local level, while the anti-Constitution Dems and RINOs carry the assault in Congress. My financial resources, such as they are, have to support the fights in my own backyard like the FOAC litigation. The NRA's reach only goes so far. I hope that they can do what they do best and keep Congress focused on upholding the Constitution.
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January 16th, 2019, 11:59 PM #44
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You wanted my thoughts... so you will get them. Mostly uncensored.
In the push to do away with suppressor regulation and pass national reciprocity- the NRA took its foot off of the gas. Regardless of whether or not Congress acted upon it, the NRA could have lit a fire under the proverbial asses of Congress to get this done. They are supposed to be the 'firearms rights' lobby. Instead they are pushing for unconstitutional gun control by supporting a bump stock ban, leading to the vague language BATFE now 'reinterprets', and now they support red flag laws. And now they will need money... to help undo everything they have just done!
Gun Owners of America is leading the charge. They fired an immediate return volley (proverbially) in the form a lawsuit against Trump and BATFE. They are seeking to destroy the unconstitutional NFA. The NRA does not have my (or this country's) best interests in mind. I've seen more clever ponzy schemes. Gun Owners of America has not backed down and is picking up the flag- moving it forward.
My money supports GOA. Not the NRA.
Originally Posted by berncly
Originally Posted by bernclyLast edited by Didnotcomply89; January 17th, 2019 at 12:05 AM.
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January 17th, 2019, 12:25 AM #45
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I'm a political junkie and I know how things work in the House and in the Senate. There are multiple places for politicians that give lip service to something to quietly kill it. Stall things in committee, procedural votes, poison pills etc. In the Senate, it takes 60 senators to move something (other than judges, thank you Harry Reid) to a vote.
Reciprocity never stood a chance because too many politicians on "our" team wanted nothing to do with it, let alone the Dems. The hearing protection act was moving until Vegas happened and then it died. The NRA and every other 2A rights organization have limited clout. The NRA has 5 million members out of 120 million guns owners. Politicians can do the math and determine how action or inaction will swing vote totals. And they know when they can tell the NRA to pound sand and when the NRA can hurt them. Further, Paul Ryan was retiring, he wasn't our friend. At best, he's a Fudd and he held up everything we wanted. No one had leverage on him.
The NRA sees the writing on the wall on red-flag laws. They're being passed by Republicans, not just Dems. The NRA has said what is necessary--rigorous due process--for them to be acceptable. Saying "NO" means politicians will move forward without any input from our side because they have a high rate of support. We can't "punish" the politicians with that issue. The left has said the NRA's proposal is too burdensome and takes too much time IE "fuck your rights" where your guns are concerned. This is how politics gets played."A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"
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January 17th, 2019, 09:44 AM #46Active Member
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Re: NRA vs GOA
what about nagr?
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January 17th, 2019, 10:21 AM #47
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Ohh you mean like 2060, that we had the votes to kill until the NRA said they were staying neutral? Or was it Constitutional carry, that they torpedoed? Yea, Sorry, I see this latest as political spin from the NRA and their apologists. and I'm not the only one. https://bearbussjaeger.wordpress.com/2019/01/13/3292/
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January 17th, 2019, 10:46 AM #48
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Constitutional carry is NEVER going to happen. It doesn't matter what organization supports it.
Any vote for a third party is a vote for a Democrat. You are the enemy.
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January 17th, 2019, 11:07 AM #49
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January 17th, 2019, 11:20 AM #50
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