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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry-Friendly Reciprocity Reintroduced in House

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinR View Post
    I'd look at it the other way around. As soon as an AWB or red flag bill gets introduced, attach this as an amendment.
    Quote Originally Posted by God's Country View Post
    Then what?

    Support it?
    No, we do nothing. The Dems will never support a bill that gives us a huge gain like that.

    We might not get it...but they won't get anything either.

    This is absolutely the right approach to take.

    Going to email Scott Perry and urge him to use this tactic.
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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry-Friendly Reciprocity Reintroduced in House

    Quote Originally Posted by alpacaheat View Post
    No, we do nothing. The Dems will never support a bill that gives us a huge gain like that.

    We might not get it...but they won't get anything either.

    This is absolutely the right approach to take.

    Going to email Scott Perry and urge him to use this tactic.
    I was being flippant (mostly) in my reply.

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry-Friendly Reciprocity Reintroduced in House

    Quote Originally Posted by God's Country View Post
    Then what?

    Support it?
    This bill will never come up for a vote if Pelosi is speaker, so it'll never pass anyway. Might as well attach it to legislation we don't want to get that legislation killed as well.

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry-Friendly Reciprocity Reintroduced in House

    Whatever I guess, so long as it doesn't serve as a distraction for other gun owners that don't really keep up with this stuff.

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry-Friendly Reciprocity Reintroduced in House

    So the last time this type of bill was introduced it was stopped cold by Mitch McConnel who would not allow a vote on it in the Senate. Will someone please tell me why they think that Senator McConnel will act differently this time?
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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry-Friendly Reciprocity Reintroduced in House

    Quote Originally Posted by Defender View Post
    So the last time this type of bill was introduced it was stopped cold by Mitch McConnel who would not allow a vote on it in the Senate. Will someone please tell me why they think that Senator McConnel will act differently this time?
    We didn't have enough votes for it to pass the Senate last time. There was no reason to bring it up.

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry-Friendly Reciprocity Reintroduced in House

    This is a joke, and blatantly- a middle finger to our faces when the GOP has two years to accomplish this- and they did nothing. NOTHING. I have a better chance of seeing unicorns or scottsman firing fireballs out their kilts. Screw every last politician in DC.

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry-Friendly Reciprocity Reintroduced in House

    Now there's also a Senate bill to go with the other House bill.



    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...permit-holders

    Cornyn offers 'reciprocity' for 17 million concealed carry permit holders

    The ranks of gun owners with approved concealed carry permits has swollen to 17 million, and new legislation offered in the Senate Thursday would make it easier for them to carry their weapons across state lines.

    Bolstered by a larger pro-gun caucus in the Senate, Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn is introducing his latest version of the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act.

    "This bill focuses on two of our country’s most fundamental constitutional protections -- the Second Amendment’s right of citizens to keep and bear arms and the Tenth Amendment’s right of states to make laws best-suited for their residents," said Cornyn, a top Senate GOP leader.

    "I look forward to working with my colleagues to advance this important legislation for law-abiding gun owners nationwide," he added.

    He already has 31 co-sponsors.

    North Carolina Rep. Richard Hudson has introduced parallel legislation in the House.

    All states allow some form of concealed carry, though the rules are very different. What's more even those who allow their citizens to carry pistols do not always allow non-residents to carry even if they have permits.

    Cornyn's plan would grant reciprocity while still keeping intact state prohibitions on those not allowed to have gun permits.

    The National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action was quick to endorse the legislation.

    "The current patchwork of state and local gun laws is confusing and can cause the most conscientious gun owner to unknowingly run afoul of the law when they are traveling or temporarily living away from home," said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA-ILA.

    "Law-abiding citizens should be able to exercise their fundamental right to self-defense while traveling across state lines. We thank Senator Cornyn for his leadership on this important issue," Cox added.

    Tim Schmidt, president and founder of U.S. Concealed Carry Association, also had praise. He told Secrets, "Personal defense is a natural born right of free people that is affirmed by the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Senator Cornyn understands that a civil liberty like this should never stop at a state line."

    The legislation has a strong backer in Donald Trump Jr. and picked up strong Senate support last year. The new Democratic-controlled House, however, appears to be moving in a distinctively anti-gun direction.

    Some 22 states already allow concealed carry reciprocity.

    And it's not just gun fans who want the right to carry across state lines.

    The NRA made the point that often first responders are caught up in the rules. They said, "The consequence is obvious, as otherwise law-abiding citizens – specifically veterans, single mothers, disaster response workers, nurses, medical school students, and even corrections officers – have wrongfully suffered seizure of property, arrest, detention and even prosecution because they failed to navigate the legal minefield that is the current state reciprocity system."

    Gun Owners of America added, "Sen. Cornyn's bill would allow citizens to protect themselves and their families while traveling across the country — clarifying a confusing patchwork of state laws. An infamous case of such a mix-up was Shaneen Allen, a Pennsylvania concealed carrier who made a wrong turn into New Jersey and then was imprisoned for over a month simply for possessing a firearm that was lawful in her home state."

    Cornyn said his plan treats carry permits like a state-issued drivers' license.

    He highlighted these points in his bill:
    *Allows law-abiding citizens to exercise their fundamental right to self-defense while they are traveling or temporarily living away from home.
    *Allows individuals with concealed carry privileges in their home state to conceal carry in any other states that also allow concealed carry.
    *Does not establish national standards for concealed carry.
    *Does not provide for a national concealed carry permit.
    *Respects state laws concerning specific types of locations in which firearms may not be carried and types of firearms which may not be carried by the visiting individual.
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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry-Friendly Reciprocity Reintroduced in House

    Let me apologize for my derp moment in assuming that the introduction of this legislation was a joke and offensive to gun owners. There is some sly workings here- in that the bill- in the form of an amendment- will stick around like a bad zit and sink anti-gun legislation. Shame on me for not knowing delicate inner workings of making bullshit.

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    Default Re: Constitutional Carry-Friendly Reciprocity Reintroduced in House

    at this moment in time this is known as a poison pill, insurance to keep bad bills from passing.
    besides, last year we got screwed with fix nics on the spending omnibus. maybe we can 11th hour and slip this into one of their garbage bills we know is going to pass.

    they can read it after they pass it.
    "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

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