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January 7th, 2019, 09:53 AM #31
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Me and healthy haven't been together in a long time. Health problems and hospitals are a concern, as I'm not a stranger to the local hospital for a few years now.
I've had a suspicion about this when looking at listings on Zillow. Looking close at the walls by the floor you can almost make out some stains in most of the ground level rooms, noticed some other tell tale signs as well. Also probably why the houses are a lot less money than you'd expect. Some of the price I've written off as things near the city are more expensive because it's where the good paying jobs are, but it can't be the only reason.
Speaking of water ... I've noticed quite a few places have well water, what's dealing with that like?
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January 7th, 2019, 10:01 AM #32
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January 7th, 2019, 10:31 AM #33
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January 7th, 2019, 12:36 PM #34Active Member
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I've been on one for the 20 years we are hear. We lost the pump on Christmas eve one year. My well is only 130feet deep so my wife and I pulled it and replaced it with one from Lowes. No problems since. I also eventually replaced the tank in the basement. I don't recall that cost, but I did it myself so maybe 500 bucks. My in-laws have used theirs for over 15 years and probably 10 from the original owner. It just went last month. Theirs is 450ish feet down, and the plumber charged under 3 grand. And a friend just got a new one yesterday, that was like 1500. But done right, their life span is measured in decades. I have a canister filter on the line too there is another 5 bucks a quarter for that element
NOW, with a Well, normally comes on site septic. We had a sand mound installed when we moved in. That needs to be pumped out ever 3-4 years. Then about 3 or 4 years ago the pump in that went. That was another grand. The sand mound installed 20 years ago was $10000. Sand mounds are 25-40% more then in ground systems. I don't have a problem with either one, but there is a lot of bitching about sand mounds. They do have pumps, so that is added complication. AND in a power outage, it can fill and not get pumped to the drain field.
It's "amazing" how if you add it all up, the replacement costs, all said, seems to average out to paying the monthly or quarterly water/sewer bill:/
In another post you mentioned the heating situation. We are Oil Boiler w/baseboard hot water here, with two 275gal tanks in the basement. We replaced the old 1954 boiler about 10 years ago, that was 3 grand installed. We will use about 500-600gal of oil a year. And that is a Summer Winter boiler, meaning it heats our hot water too. Oil is dirtier then gas, so we get ours cleaned ever year, that's another $100-125 and includes replacing the oil filter. We have two 1 ton mini split heat pumps (ductless systems)in our recently added addition. That supplements our heat and of course is good air conditioning.
Power outage: We moved in Sept '99 and Hurricane Floyd blew over, knocking out power for 2 days. Well, you can't get water from an electric submersible pump without electricity. ALSO can't run the sand mound pump. But without well water, there is not a lot going down the drain. Also without any fire to heat the house, no wood burning anything, I also needed electricity to run the heat. So we went out and bought a small generator after that. It was a cheap alternative to replacing all the food in the refrigerator and freezer ever time. The more rural you get, the longer it can take to see power return. But unlike the utilities your used to, they will not be there in an outage. I remember my Wife filled the tub so we have water to flush the toilets and stuff. Unfortunately the drain plug was less then water tight. But with a fairly small generator, I can run the well pump, oil burner and it's circulator pumps, Sand mound pump, and some lights and the fridge and freezer. Not all at the same time, but 5000Ws goes a long way.
This is well said, it's not hard, just different. And you will look at problems differently. Like someone else said snow removal, well I have a plow on my truck for just that reason. It's cheap, and I only have to shovel a few feet of sidewalk when I am done in the truck.
Oh and lastly, there are plenty of places without water problems, and they are easily found. They are UP ON HILLS and NOT in flood plains People laugh at me, my two houses were bought UP on hills and that was for a reason. I grew up in a house that was low, and that sucked. Now if I get water, it's only because a gutter is clogged or something. Keep that in mind too, if you find a place that's high, and there are still water marks, it could just be poor runoff management. Getting that downspout away from the foundation really makes a difference.
JD
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January 8th, 2019, 12:13 AM #35
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January 8th, 2019, 09:00 AM #36
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January 8th, 2019, 09:12 AM #37Grand Member
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Re: Honesdale-Hawley
Some people can't stand the thought of mowing grass or plowing snow. I'm no fan. But I also cannot see myself living in a townhouse, watching sports, or looking for something to do all the time. Just not me.
Buy a house with some land far outside any developments (if that's even possible anymore), and you typically won't lack for things to do.
I seem to recall you're a winter hater (to put it mildly ) Not sure how that will sit with you, when winter is long and then mud season (spring to "normal" people).
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January 8th, 2019, 01:10 PM #38
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Yea, not a fan, but I can manage, plus, I'm married and I enjoy being so. Like I've mentioned, her parents are buried in Hawley and we are to be planted in the same plot when the time comes, as are 2 of her brothers. No one lives near Hawley, NC, VA & LI,NY, she wants to be the one that tends to the plot.
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January 8th, 2019, 01:16 PM #39Grand Member
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So when is the eventual permanent move?
ETA:
IIRC when you take 191 to where it meets the Delaware, there is or was some top notch trout fishing. If you're into that sort thing.Last edited by God's Country; January 8th, 2019 at 01:21 PM.
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January 8th, 2019, 01:25 PM #40
Re: Honesdale-Hawley
It's just a thought for now. I have at least 5 years before I can retire and she has about the same, even though she's younger.
Unlike her brothers her sentimental attachment to the house in the Lake Wallenpaupack area is strong, but the will says it goes to the four of them. two want to sell one doesn't care. We can't buy them out. The Philly area is where the jobs pay, so we'll be here until we can afford to get out. By then that house will be nothing more than a memory.
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