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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    How many hospitals? Don’t retire too far from help. Old sucks. Accessible is the adjective you want describing everything in a new retirement home. Steps will be your barrier and time also. Think about this. When your healthy you don’t notice things that will one day suck so bad. Snow removal is a good one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandcut View Post
    Wayne Memorial in Honesdale. A couple urgent cares in Dunmore/Dickson City. Three hospitals (one a trauma center) in Scranton. At least one in Wilkes Barre. Specialists at Geisinger in Bloomsburg or go to Philly.
    Me and healthy haven't been together in a long time. Health problems and hospitals are a concern, as I'm not a stranger to the local hospital for a few years now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandcut View Post
    We looked at a bunch of houses and only found two that didn't have water issues. One we bought. Shallow soils and shallow bedrock cause water to stay near the surface. Most of Wayne, Pike, Monroe and eastern Lackawanna counties are poorly drained.
    I've had a suspicion about this when looking at listings on Zillow. Looking close at the walls by the floor you can almost make out some stains in most of the ground level rooms, noticed some other tell tale signs as well. Also probably why the houses are a lot less money than you'd expect. Some of the price I've written off as things near the city are more expensive because it's where the good paying jobs are, but it can't be the only reason.

    Speaking of water ... I've noticed quite a few places have well water, what's dealing with that like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Country View Post
    You're all city folk to me. Rural living has a lot to offer. It's just different than what is "normal".
    I wouldn't trade it for anything. Everything is work. Just a matter of what you want to spend your time doing.
    I've seen that, when the in-laws were alive they were always working toward the next season. My wife, having grown up there, knows some of the routine, and she's a worker bee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soberbyker View Post

    Thanks for the offers, I'll keep them and the info here in mind.

    I have spent a lot of time in Palmyra Twp, Tanglwood Lakes, area, so the dark and quiet are not a problem for me, or our dog and wifey's family built a home on an empty lot many many many moons ago she she knows it well too. She wants to keep it but it was will to her and her 3 brothers, we can't buy them out at this time so it's going to be sold. As much as there is sentimental attachment for her, and I could live there, I'm kind of glad we can't because there is an uptight homeowners assoc. to deal with there.

    Again, thanks to all who have contributed here, we are at least a few years from any real thought on the idea but appreciate the food for thought. Speaking of thought, Qtrborecrazy mentioned stay away from the rivers. Why? Floods, bugs? Too many critters?

    Bill
    Soberbyker, lots of rain this year and small problems with some streams. I live at 1800 feet above sea level and never worry about it. Streams are nice to live next to until they flood, ask the people along the Delaware and Susquehanna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soberbyker View Post
    .....Speaking of water ... I've noticed quite a few places have well water, what's dealing with that like?.
    I've been on one for the 20 years we are hear. We lost the pump on Christmas eve one year. My well is only 130feet deep so my wife and I pulled it and replaced it with one from Lowes. No problems since. I also eventually replaced the tank in the basement. I don't recall that cost, but I did it myself so maybe 500 bucks. My in-laws have used theirs for over 15 years and probably 10 from the original owner. It just went last month. Theirs is 450ish feet down, and the plumber charged under 3 grand. And a friend just got a new one yesterday, that was like 1500. But done right, their life span is measured in decades. I have a canister filter on the line too there is another 5 bucks a quarter for that element

    NOW, with a Well, normally comes on site septic. We had a sand mound installed when we moved in. That needs to be pumped out ever 3-4 years. Then about 3 or 4 years ago the pump in that went. That was another grand. The sand mound installed 20 years ago was $10000. Sand mounds are 25-40% more then in ground systems. I don't have a problem with either one, but there is a lot of bitching about sand mounds. They do have pumps, so that is added complication. AND in a power outage, it can fill and not get pumped to the drain field.

    It's "amazing" how if you add it all up, the replacement costs, all said, seems to average out to paying the monthly or quarterly water/sewer bill:/

    In another post you mentioned the heating situation. We are Oil Boiler w/baseboard hot water here, with two 275gal tanks in the basement. We replaced the old 1954 boiler about 10 years ago, that was 3 grand installed. We will use about 500-600gal of oil a year. And that is a Summer Winter boiler, meaning it heats our hot water too. Oil is dirtier then gas, so we get ours cleaned ever year, that's another $100-125 and includes replacing the oil filter. We have two 1 ton mini split heat pumps (ductless systems)in our recently added addition. That supplements our heat and of course is good air conditioning.

    Power outage: We moved in Sept '99 and Hurricane Floyd blew over, knocking out power for 2 days. Well, you can't get water from an electric submersible pump without electricity. ALSO can't run the sand mound pump. But without well water, there is not a lot going down the drain. Also without any fire to heat the house, no wood burning anything, I also needed electricity to run the heat. So we went out and bought a small generator after that. It was a cheap alternative to replacing all the food in the refrigerator and freezer ever time. The more rural you get, the longer it can take to see power return. But unlike the utilities your used to, they will not be there in an outage. I remember my Wife filled the tub so we have water to flush the toilets and stuff. Unfortunately the drain plug was less then water tight. But with a fairly small generator, I can run the well pump, oil burner and it's circulator pumps, Sand mound pump, and some lights and the fridge and freezer. Not all at the same time, but 5000Ws goes a long way.

    Quote Originally Posted by God's Country View Post
    You're all city folk to me. Rural living has a lot to offer. It's just different than what is "normal".
    I wouldn't trade it for anything. Everything is work. Just a matter of what you want to spend your time doing.
    This is well said, it's not hard, just different. And you will look at problems differently. Like someone else said snow removal, well I have a plow on my truck for just that reason. It's cheap, and I only have to shovel a few feet of sidewalk when I am done in the truck.

    Oh and lastly, there are plenty of places without water problems, and they are easily found. They are UP ON HILLS and NOT in flood plains People laugh at me, my two houses were bought UP on hills and that was for a reason. I grew up in a house that was low, and that sucked. Now if I get water, it's only because a gutter is clogged or something. Keep that in mind too, if you find a place that's high, and there are still water marks, it could just be poor runoff management. Getting that downspout away from the foundation really makes a difference.

    JD

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    Default Re: Honesdale-Hawley

    Quote Originally Posted by soberbyker View Post
    Yea, wifeys pop died this past November, her mom in 2015, used to go to their place in Tanglwood Lakes a lot (off 507)

    So, it's couple of minutes from my place off 507. Welcome to the neighborhood

    Oh, and it's Pike, not Wayne county
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metz View Post
    So, it's couple of minutes from my place off 507. Welcome to the neighborhood

    Oh, and it's Pike, not Wayne county
    Yes, I know their house is/was in Pike, we won't be able to keep it.

    I'm looking to move to the Pike - Wayne area with the focus on Wayne because wifeys parents are buried in Hawley (proper) and it's where our final resting place is as well.

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    Default Re: Honesdale-Hawley

    Quote Originally Posted by soberbyker View Post
    I've seen that, when the in-laws were alive they were always working toward the next season. My wife, having grown up there, knows some of the routine, and she's a worker bee.
    Some people can't stand the thought of mowing grass or plowing snow. I'm no fan. But I also cannot see myself living in a townhouse, watching sports, or looking for something to do all the time. Just not me.

    Buy a house with some land far outside any developments (if that's even possible anymore), and you typically won't lack for things to do.

    I seem to recall you're a winter hater (to put it mildly ) Not sure how that will sit with you, when winter is long and then mud season (spring to "normal" people).

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Country View Post
    Some people can't stand the thought of mowing grass or plowing snow. I'm no fan. But I also cannot see myself living in a townhouse, watching sports, or looking for something to do all the time. Just not me.

    Buy a house with some land far outside any developments (if that's even possible anymore), and you typically won't lack for things to do.

    I seem to recall you're a winter hater (to put it mildly ) Not sure how that will sit with you, when winter is long and then mud season (spring to "normal" people).
    Yea, not a fan, but I can manage, plus, I'm married and I enjoy being so. Like I've mentioned, her parents are buried in Hawley and we are to be planted in the same plot when the time comes, as are 2 of her brothers. No one lives near Hawley, NC, VA & LI,NY, she wants to be the one that tends to the plot.

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    So when is the eventual permanent move?

    ETA:

    IIRC when you take 191 to where it meets the Delaware, there is or was some top notch trout fishing. If you're into that sort thing.
    Last edited by God's Country; January 8th, 2019 at 01:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God's Country View Post
    So when is the eventual permanent move?
    It's just a thought for now. I have at least 5 years before I can retire and she has about the same, even though she's younger.

    Unlike her brothers her sentimental attachment to the house in the Lake Wallenpaupack area is strong, but the will says it goes to the four of them. two want to sell one doesn't care. We can't buy them out. The Philly area is where the jobs pay, so we'll be here until we can afford to get out. By then that house will be nothing more than a memory.

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