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    Default Re: Home Defense: 00 Buck or #4 Buck?

    "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself"

    "He created the game, played the game, and lost the game.... All under his own terms, by his own doing." JW34

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    Default Re: Home Defense: 00 Buck or #4 Buck?

    How is #4 buck through a wool coat or multiple layers of clothing? Anyone have any information on that?
    "The Constitution is the guide which I will not abandon. - George Washington

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    Default Re: Home Defense: 00 Buck or #4 Buck?

    00 buck for me. Federal flight control. No reduced recoil. No mini shells. No racking the pump for effect. No firing two blasts into the air. No birdshot to 'give em something to think about'. The time for thinking was before they came into the house. Just 00 buck. I know where the kids beds are. I wont shoot in that direction.

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    Default Re: Home Defense: 00 Buck or #4 Buck?

    Quote Originally Posted by philadelphia patriot View Post
    How is #4 buck through a wool coat or multiple layers of clothing? Anyone have any information on that?

    It goes thru a deer coat and a layer of leather just fine.........

    I once shot a small yearling at about 10-15 yards with 4 buck. Hit it broadside in the vitals and the deer just flopped over. Pretty sure almost all went thru.

    For full disclosure I did lose a big buck once with 4 buck. It was maybe 50 yards........too far. Hit it good but it ran and someone else got it. Quit using buckshot and switched to a rifled slug barrel for deer
    Last edited by Delkal; December 31st, 2018 at 05:31 PM.

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    Default Re: Home Defense: 00 Buck or #4 Buck?

    Shotguns for home defense is soooo last century.
    Get an ar and call it a day.
    00 buck and #4 buck is (on body armor) low penetration and high recoil impulse.
    Buckshot of all types is great at penetrating houses, though.
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    Default Re: Home Defense: 00 Buck or #4 Buck?

    Quote Originally Posted by cdi View Post
    Shotguns for home defense is soooo last century.
    Get an ar and call it a day.
    00 buck and #4 buck is (on body armor) low penetration and high recoil impulse.
    Buckshot of all types is great at penetrating houses, though.
    I’ve yet to meet a burglar who wore body armor. Most the burglars I know are thin, deformed drug addicts.
    "The Constitution is the guide which I will not abandon. - George Washington

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    Default Re: Home Defense: 00 Buck or #4 Buck?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delkal View Post
    You are worried that burglars might be wearing body armor? Watch the end of Scarface much?
    What'd I miss? FWIW, we haven't had a TV for the last 18 years...
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    Default Re: Home Defense: 00 Buck or #4 Buck?

    The closest I came was a guy who had it in his trunk.
    With the advent of pretty cheap soft armor, war time vets everywhere you look and mopes not wanting to get ventilated in these progun times- don't bet on not encountering armor.
    Crusader's local #556 South Central Asia chapter

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    Default Re: Home Defense: 00 Buck or #4 Buck?

    -Smiley IANAL, don't listen to me.

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    Default Re: Home Defense: 00 Buck or #4 Buck?

    Quote Originally Posted by philadelphia patriot View Post
    I’ve yet to meet a burglar who wore body armor. Most the burglars I know are thin, deformed drug addicts.
    I have seen some some of those high on “wet” and I would bet they would fight through a gunshot until they bled out.

    On another note, home invasions (where the invaders and home occupants were probably all up to no good) have had some participants “well equipped”.

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