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  1. #31
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    Default Re: Negligent Discharge

    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    Never have had a ND and never will.
    until you do......

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    I remember my first nocturnal discharge... thought my ‘plumbing’ was broke.

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    You need to shoot more. People who bust out guns once a year may never have one. If you shoot 3x a week for a few years you probably will. I hope you are right. I used to say the same thing until I shot a round into my bedroom floor one night. That was exciting. I'm glad it happened. I'm way more fanatical about gun safety.
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    Painters fall off ladders

    Electricians get shocked.

    GUNSMITHS...... well you get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    Never have had a ND and never will.
    The most dangerous words ever spoken.

    Worse even than "John, we've been together a while, but I've been talking to all my girlfriends and we've decided that . . ."
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    Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.

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    Default Re: Negligent Discharge

    Quote Originally Posted by Gman106 View Post
    Had three negligent discharges...cost me a bundle in clothes and college tuition!
    Took me a second...

    I only had one. Unloaded the gun shortly after that.

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    Default Re: Negligent Discharge

    In my 60 years of shooting, had 2 (35 years apart).
    The 2nd one took out the "A" coil of the central air.
    You only have to lose concentration for a second.
    Guns, power saws, torches, driving and the list goes on and on.
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    Si vis pacem, Para bellum
    To every man upon this earth, death cometh, soon or late

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    Whenever I dry fire a firearm in my home I always point it at a wall (never my flatscreen)... spackle is made for idiots like us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonBiase View Post
    You only have to lose concentration for a second.
    That's all it takes. Having to deal with such things at work being on the knife edge of everything is fine to someone's going on the life flight chopper that we even have a pad for if required, I find to keep things safe you need to develop simple systems and processes that you repeat over and over. When I hear stories of NDs, it often comes down to that. People tossing around guns like footballs, guns here, there, everywhere, loaded, unloaded, chambered, not chambered, cleaning here, there, wherever. I have one specific system in my house, guns are stored in one location, another location is used for emergencies, my guns have a certain status inside the house, they are cleared at the range(I have my own range), check for clear again outside the house before being stored. Guns are cleaned or maintained in one specific place in the barn. In the end whatever works for you and your situation, but have a system and process for how guns are handled and repeat it.

    Also I don't buy into this thing of it's not whether you've had one but when you will or whatever it is. Mentally that allows your brain a freebie and promotes getting sloppy. Again like you said it just takes one moment of concentration to lapse and that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinville View Post
    Not to be argumentative, but I have found the opposite of this to be correct, for me. I load all my firearms. It makes it easier to "treat all firearms as if they are loaded" when I know, and expect, that they are. This way I do not have to act as if they are loaded, when subconsciously, I know that they should not be. I know that they are loaded, and I treat them accordingly.

    If I were to only load certain firearms, I would be creating different categories of firearms which, subconsciously, would not be given the same respect that all firearms deserve. I don't like the idea of assuming some firearms are unloaded, because if you fuck up one time and one isn't, well...

    A firearm is only unloaded if I personally unload it and verify it as such, as the rule intends. This is just something to think about, to each his own.
    Oh I agree with you. Your method works great for the individual. Living with other people requires them to have the same discipline. Some will, some won't.
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