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  1. #11
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    Default Re: Bump Stock ban Rule in Place

    Just try banning my fat belly

  2. #12
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    Default Re: Bump Stock ban Rule in Place

    ATF releases instructions on how to destroy your bump-stock:

    https://www.atf.gov/file/133136/download
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  3. #13
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    Default Re: Bump Stock ban Rule in Place

    Come on people, keep an open mind. Just turn them in then they'll leave us alone...

  4. #14
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    Default Re: Bump Stock ban Rule in Place

    Well GOA is suing and I am contributing.

    The NRA I expect to sit on their ass and do nothing.

  5. #15
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    Default Re: Bump Stock ban Rule in Place

    Quote Originally Posted by KJP442 View Post
    How can they just force you to turn in your property without compensation? I know they can at the barrel of a gun, but legally how can they do that?

    Not to mention I didn't vote for the head of the ATF. Unelected bureaucrats have no business passing what are essentially laws, especially ones that force citizens to destroy their own property. If Congress and Trump wanted this so bad, then Congress should have gotten off it's dead ass and passed a law about it. Then at least we'd have some accountability.
    They can't. This is going to get smacked down in the courts.

    Bureaucrats can't create law, they can just apply the laws that delegated to them by the legislature.

    ATF has to define machine gun and what constitutes one based on NFA34 and its amendments. That's why they were legal, because the ATF applied the regulation correctly the first time.

    This time the ruling is wrong, based on the plain language of the law on how a machine gun is defined.

    If the judge that sees this is actually there to enforce the law, it'll get thrown out on day 1. If Congress wants to define a bumpstock as a machine gun, they're going to have to change the law before ATF can promulgate the rule.

  6. #16
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    Default Re: Bump Stock ban Rule in Place

    And the official hammer drop. Advance to 7:59 for the announcement.

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  7. #17
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    Default Re: Bump Stock ban Rule in Place

    Quote Originally Posted by wanneroo View Post
    Well GOA is suing and I am contributing.

    The NRA I expect to sit on their ass and do nothing.
    Of course- the NRA are the ones that called for additional regulations (their words, not mine).
    The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations.
    https://home.nra.org/joint-statement

    Just sent a donation to the GOA and the Military Arms Channel too. I guess he is or one of their plantiffs
    "It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
    My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685

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    Default Re: Bump Stock ban Rule in Place

    Ashamed for voting for this guy, aside from the SC nominations. Hopefully this gets knocked down, but history says not to hold my breath.

    Trump-Feinstein.jpg

    This seems so surreal. Burning Trump paraphernalia now.
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  9. #19
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    Default Re: Bump Stock ban Rule in Place

    Quote Originally Posted by spacemanvic View Post
    Ashamed for voting for this guy, aside from the SC nominations. Hopefully this gets knocked down, but history says not to hold my breath.
    I'm not ashamed to have voted for him, however he has 2 years to earn another vote from me. I try and keep in mind where he gets his 2nd Amendment advice
    "It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
    My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685

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    Default Re: Bump Stock ban Rule in Place

    Trump: ‘Take the guns first, go through due process second’
    During a meeting with lawmakers at the White House on Feb. 28, President Trump suggested to “take the guns first, go through due process second” in the cases of people who are reported as dangerous.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...=.a7725d491459

    Guess you could say that in 90 days from now, those who havent destroyed or turned in their bumpstocks will be reported as "dangerous". Cant wait til the NYvalues decides that having a mag greater than 10 rounds or an evil semiauto rifle makes us reportable as "dangerous".
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