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    Default Mag Ban Question

    Being the law abiding subject that I am, I would like to try and comply with NJ mag ban.

    All my AR mags are hexmags are it looks like I can buy the hexmag 10rd insert. What are the pooofa's thoughts on the legality of that?

    Part of me thinks its illegal as its reversible, but, I was able to buy 15rd mag hexmags in NJ which are easily reversible to 30rd mags.

    (I know, I know, move yadda yadda)
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    Default Re: Mag Ban Question

    My opinion, best thing you can do is burn your house down, collect the insurance money, move out of that shit-hole state! Or, burn it down and don’t collect the money, move out! Either way, your life improves immeasurably!
    I’m kidding about the insurance fraud thing!

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    Default Re: Mag Ban Question

    It doesn't matter what our opinion is. What matters is what the law says.

    Maybe I don't understand the question?

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    Default Re: Mag Ban Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    It doesn't matter what our opinion is. What matters is what the law says.

    Maybe I don't understand the question?
    The law states any mag alteration to meet the new requirements must be permanent. That is my hiccup.

    Odds are, my mags are disappearing and I will order legit 10rd ones for the interim.
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    Default Re: Mag Ban Question

    This is where semantics come into play, and hexmag seems to be walking the line very tightly.

    Hexmag doesn't sell a 30 round magazine modified into a 10 round, they sell a 10 round magazine that happens to be the same size as a 30 round. And if you go modifying that magazine to do something other than what the manufacturer intended, well, that's on you.

    But you're talking about modifying a 30 round magazine to hold 10. Are you going to keep the 30 round components? If so, that's temporary. If you throw the parts away you could claim it was permanent, but then the gov goes "but it says 30 on it, so if you modified it to hold 10, you have the ability to make it hold 30 again".

    In NJ if you're at the range and not loading more than 10 or 15 or however many, can a cop just walk up and say "let me see your magazine!"? If not, and they're counting how many rounds your magazines hold and are scrutinizing how readily revertable they are to 30, you're already in deep for something else.

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    Default Re: Mag Ban Question

    We drilled a hole and put in pop rivers right at the level the mag became legal. Grind the pop rivet out when you leave the sanctuary state of NewJersey and become free.

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    Default Re: Mag Ban Question

    The removable limiter is not permanent per NJ standard unless you permanently sealed the bottom plate on so it could not be disassembled. Your best bet is to stash those away somewhere safe and legal like in the attic or burried in your backyard and buy 10 round ban state mags.

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    Default Re: Mag Ban Question

    Unless you can get the NJ AG to place in writing that it's legal, and Evan Napp to initial and swear on a stack of bibles that he will defend you pro bono should you end up in the Klink, I would move those mags to a free state, and purchase 10 round mags.

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    Default Re: Mag Ban Question

    People I know, that travel form PA to NJ to shoot CMP and NRA service rifle matches are purchasing these mags. The mags below meet the match rules for 20 round size box and are purpose made to meet the NJ round limit. I can’t swear that the reduced round limit is permanent or not for these mags but they would be purchased as mags with limited capacity.

    http://www.ammosc.com/223-stainless-...0-rd-magazine/

    https://promagindustries.com/ar-rifl...-magazine.html

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    Default Re: Mag Ban Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Hodgie View Post
    The removable limiter is not permanent per NJ standard unless you permanently sealed the bottom plate on so it could not be disassembled. Your best bet is to stash those away somewhere safe and legal like in the attic or burried in your backyard and buy 10 round ban state mags.
    This seems to be the safe method most are recommending.

    Guess my property will get lost in PA soon and I will stash up on useless 10rd mags. The only saving grace here is I can easily get 30rd springs and convert my hexmags to standard cap once outside of NJ.

    Just sucks.
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