Legal?

**Bumilicious** · December 2nd, 2018, 01:13 AM

New here so forgive me if this has already been discussed. I do not have a LTCF and am unable to for the next year. I was wondering if it is legal to keep my shotgun in my car indefinitely unloaded with the shells separate. Better to have something rather than nothing in case of emergency. I know I can have it in there unloaded but I can only find "if transporting to and from the range"

Thank you

**jeep** · December 2nd, 2018, 01:41 AM

im no lawyer but i do believe that with out a LTCF you may only transport to and from range. Is there some sort of legal reason as to why you can not get a LTCF for a year?

**Steve in PA** · December 2nd, 2018, 01:48 AM

Yes, you can keep and unloaded rifle or shotgun in your vehicle as whether or not you have a LTCF has no bearing on them.

Transportation to and from the range covers “firearms” (handguns for the majority of the public).

My question is, what is preventing you from getting your LTCF? Something more than age (being under 21)?

**Bumilicious** · December 2nd, 2018, 02:01 AM

I'm only 20 years old lol. My main reason for wanting to keep it in my vehicle is the area I live in is not the safest area. It's the middle ground for new york and Detroit drug runners and dealers.

**SevenMilePete** · December 2nd, 2018, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by Bumilicious

New here so forgive me if this has already been discussed. I do not have a LTCF and am unable to for the next year. I was wondering if it is legal to keep my shotgun in my car indefinitely unloaded with the shells separate. Better to have something rather than nothing in case of emergency. I know I can have it in there unloaded but I can only find "if transporting to and from the range"

Thank you

From what I understand (IANAL), you can carry a loaded long gun (rifle or shotgun) openly or concealed, without a LTCF.
But it must be unloaded in a vehicle. Handguns may only be carried from and to range, place of purchase or sale, or repair, without LTCF.

https://firearmsindustryconsultinggr...ying-firearms/

**Boo Vuccla** · December 2nd, 2018, 10:05 AM

My concern is "IF" where you live is not the safest..............why would you put a shotgun with ammo in a car to be broken into and thus add to more guns on the streets illegally obtained? (Doesn't matter if it's a crap gun or not).
I'm assuming you have another gun in your home or apartment for defense where in most cases you would most likely need it more than in a car or truck. If you feel you need it in your car or truck, I hope you don't need it in a hurry. (Ammo/shotgun in different locations).
Just thinking "what good is piece of mind verses how quickly can I reach my piece?"

**MARINE DIVISION TWO** · December 2nd, 2018, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Bumilicious

I'm only 20 years old lol. My main reason for wanting to keep it in my vehicle is the area I live in is not the safest area. It's the middle ground for new york and Detroit drug runners and dealers.

Stay away from these areas if possible ! By the time you would be able to reach a shottie in your trunk and load,Well it would be all over . Dont jeopardize your chances of getting a LTCF , There would be a lot less explaing to do . Yes to and from range unloaded in trunk is allowed !

**GunLawyer001** · December 2nd, 2018, 12:01 PM

I'd be concerned about Philly PD's interpretation of this:

§ 6108. Carrying firearms on public streets or public property in Philadelphia.

No person shall carry a firearm, rifle or shotgun at any time upon the public streets or upon any public property in a city of the first class unless:

(1) such person is licensed to carry a firearm; or

(2) such person is exempt from licensing under section 6106(b) of this title (relating to firearms not to be carried without a license).