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  1. #31
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    Default Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license

    Quote Originally Posted by jljordann922 View Post
    Pocono Pines (Monroe County)
    I'm a FFL down in Saylorsburg and would be willing to work with you.
    Trigger Time LLc

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    Default Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license

    Quote Originally Posted by IV_Warrior View Post
    So what happens if I own 3 homes and live in each 4 months of the year? Am I not a resident of any state?
    I don't deal with hypotheticals, when you start living in three houses check back with me.

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    Default Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license

    I thought it had to do with where your primary house is located.
    Don't be an ass.

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    Default Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license

    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    I don't deal with hypotheticals, when you start living in three houses check back with me.
    The easier solution is, which of the three states does he hold a drivers license?



    This whole issue is the reason why Monroe County's Sheriff Martin required a copy of your Berkheimer taxes to prove residency when applying for a LTCF. Just saying.

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    Default Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license

    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    I don't deal with hypotheticals, when you start living in three houses check back with me.
    But you'll apply tax law definitions to firearms laws?

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    Default Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license

    Quote Originally Posted by Kramer View Post
    The easier solution is, which of the three states does he hold a drivers license?



    This whole issue is the reason why Monroe County's Sheriff Martin required a copy of your Berkheimer taxes to prove residency when applying for a LTCF. Just saying.
    He's supposed to issue to both residents and non-resident. Property taxes shouldn't mean jack shit. Just Saying.

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    Default Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license

    I'll have to look it up but I believe that if your state of residence requires a CCW permit (or whatever the state calls it) to carry concealed, then to get one in PA you must have one in your home state.

    Buying a firearm has nothing to do with your "Primary" residence for a dual/multistate resident. The law says that if you own a home in 2 states, and pay the real estate taxes on those properties, that when you are residing in that home, you are a resident of that state. I have been doing this for over 10 years and the persons "Primary" residence has NEVER been called into play or was a factor in the purchase. And as I said in a previous post, I have been inspected by the BATFE and they have NEVER found that I have done anything the law didn't allow.

    Can't say I've ever run into a person that has homes in more than 2 states but that should not matter the way the law is written.
    Ron USAF Ret E-8 FFL01/SOT3 NRA Benefactor Member

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    Default Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license

    Quote Originally Posted by IV_Warrior View Post
    While it doesn't surprise me that the BATFE would say something like that, it just seems so completely wrong. Owning or renting shouldn't matter. Actually living there is what should be the determining factor. Own a house here that you use as an income property? No, that doesn't qualify you as a resident. Own/rent unimproved property? Nope.
    I don't disagree with that but the ATF is the one who makes the regulations. I suppose it could be because the renter/lessee does not determine what can/cannot be done with the rented property. The rental agreement could say "no firearms" and the renter has to abide by that. I can't say for certain why the ATF says that and I've never run into that scenario yet.
    Ron USAF Ret E-8 FFL01/SOT3 NRA Benefactor Member

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    Default Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license

    There is a Trigger Time LLc in WV is that you also?

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    Default Re: 2nd home in Pa I live in. I want purchase firearm in PA with NY Drivers license

    To the OP, do you have a house with a Deed that has your name on it? Do you pay PA taxes? Not necessarily your income taxes, but PA school and property taxes? If so, you only need to find a FFL dealer willing to take copies of your paperwork and sell you a firearm. The 4473 will have your PA address, as per BATF instructions. The firearms will remain at your PA residence.

    Without a PA DL, your Sheriff will most likely NOT issue a PA LTCF, winless you out of state license is a full unrestricted carry and then it will be a non resident LTCF, until you move permanently.

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