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November 9th, 2018, 01:21 PM #61
Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing
I absolutely think deadly force was justified based on the posts in this thread (still not watching the video). With regard to the fella yielding the gun, we just all react or believe differently in what standard if any needs to be met before we use deadly force. Not everybody is trained, and even when we are trained we can be trained differently or interpret that training differently
I'm not in favor of Police using non-lethal measures in deadly force incidents. I wish I had the savvy to research how many mentally-ill or downright murderous people using deadly force to resist arrest went on to become productive members of society after being saved by non-lethal devices.
Just my .02 worthLast edited by ExFlyinguy; November 9th, 2018 at 01:29 PM.
"It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685
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November 9th, 2018, 01:42 PM #62
Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing
If a COP had shot that guy dead, this forum would be out with torches and pitchforks.
(That's how "urgent" it was to shoot the knife guy for those who didn't watch the video)I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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November 9th, 2018, 01:46 PM #63
Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing
"It seems that the Constitution is more or less guidelines than actual rules"
My feedback: http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=305685
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November 9th, 2018, 01:52 PM #64
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November 9th, 2018, 01:57 PM #65Super Member
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Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing
I don't think "any dumb shit response is a correct response, so long as it happens to work". I just don't think CCW guy did anything inherently wrong based on what's visible on video.
I'll agree, Pepper spray guy pulled a dumb move and got lucky. He willingly walked in front of not one, but two weapons. If things went sideways quick, he could catch a knife or a bullet. Bravado doesn't always equal wisdom.
What I really want to know is: to the people who are defending this guy's (in)actions, if he had fired on the advancing knife wielder and killed him, would you consider that justified?
- Did he initially draw from that distance?
- Did knife guy threaten him within arms reach, initiating him to draw?
- Did CCW guy 'get the drop' on knife guy after he killed his GF?
Without seeing how/when the guy decided to draw his gun, I don't have enough information to make a judgement on justification.
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November 9th, 2018, 01:58 PM #66Grand Member
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November 9th, 2018, 02:08 PM #67
Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing
Lol your probably right.
Dangerous things are dangerous including situations, that doesn’t mean one should shoot their way out of everything that comes along in life that fits that criteria.
Knowing when not to shoot is just as or maybe even more important then knowing when to shoot, especially when your just an average serf citizen in a very anti gun city.
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November 9th, 2018, 02:10 PM #68
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November 9th, 2018, 02:21 PM #69
Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing
There's more info and another video from a different angle here https://komonews.com/news/local/woma...seattle-center
The perp was obviously distraught over stabbing his GF, "the only person that he loved", and wanted to die. It didn't look like he was out to hurt anyone else. The armed citizen didn't want to shoot him and was thinking in part about the 4-yr old, but had intervened so no one else would get hurt. I can understand his actions if he thought the guy was no longer a threat and didn't want to be goaded into helping the guy commit suicide.
Yes of course, 100% justified, but that doesn't make it the right thing, or the only thing, to do.
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November 9th, 2018, 02:40 PM #70Member
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Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing
These are sage words from Gun Lawyer. The only reason for any armed citizen in a public place to draw a gun is to protect his own life, or the life of his family. Dropping that hammer in any other situation just isn't worth it. You can be doing the right thing and have your life destroyed the the courts. Confine involvement to calling 911.
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