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  1. #71
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    Default Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing

    The samaritan never seemed to be retreating at a speed unsafe in reverse. It appeared to me he maintained some level of situational awareness, such that his probability of falling was diminished. The knife guy never appeared to make an overly aggressive move towards the samaritan. The samaritan maintained muzzle discipline when no-shoots entered the line of fire.

    Overall I still have to say he did good.
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    Default Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy T View Post
    These are sage words from Gun Lawyer. The only reason for any armed citizen in a public place to draw a gun is to protect his own life, or the life of his family. Dropping that hammer in any other situation just isn't worth it. You can be doing the right thing and have your life destroyed the the courts. Confine involvement to calling 911.
    To stand by and allow innocent people to be killed, because you fear the ramifications of doing the right thing is simply cowardice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinville View Post
    To stand by and allow innocent people to be killed, because you fear the ramifications of doing the right thing is simply cowardice.
    That's a true statement with no relevance here. He wasn't trying to kill other people, he was trying to get himself killed.

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    Default Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by scruff View Post
    That's a true statement with no relevance here.
    It was relevant to the comments I quoted.

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    Default Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by marinville View Post
    It was relevant to the comments I quoted.
    It has no relevance to the incident we're discussing.

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    Default Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by scruff View Post
    It has no relevance to the incident we're discussing.
    That is correct.

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    Default Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by marinville View Post
    Again with the speed of approach. The guy just killed someone. He has a knife in his hand and he is advancing. He does not stop advancing. Only the constant backpedaling keeps them apart. Shooting him was 100% justified... IMO.
    Justified? Sure.
    Necessary? That's what's debatable.

    He didn't seem to be in any sort of hurry to hurt anyone else.
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    Default Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing

    Thread title needs changing, it's misleading and is aggravating the voices in my head.
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    Default Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing

    Link posted previously by Scruff:
    "I have a concealed weapons license," said Scott Brown. "(The suspect) was just walking away calmly. I pulled out my firearm and he refused - he kept moving towards me. He said, 'shoot me, shoot me. I killed the only girl I ever loved...I don't have anything left.' Someone maced him. A minute or two later the police arrived.
    ...

    “I got next to him and I pulled out my gun and stepped in front of him," Brown said. "As soon as he saw that I had a firearm, he started trying to convince me to shoot him... and I didn’t want to shoot him.”

    Frankie Dean, the man who recorded the confrontation on his cellphone, said the suspect kept saying his girlfriend had taken away his child and begged to be shot dead.

    Any more questions?
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    Default Re: Armed Citizen With Gun Does Nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    Thread title needs changing, it's misleading and is aggravating the voices in my head.
    With the way that things are going around here we are gonna need a mod just to keep after thread titles.
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