Firearms NEAR school property

[djspanky1505]

Are you sure it's all one parcel?

Looking at the parcel viewer (our county has an awesome one), it does list two separate parcels. The school/football field are on one, and the baseball field/SW section of woods are on a separate parcel.

[STBear]

Preemtion only covers ownership and carry, no? There are plenty of legal local laws prohibiting discharge of firearms, i think.

Preemption covers Hunting. The PGC sets the rules for hunting and as long as you follow the game law municipalities can not stop you from legal hunting. Sometimes you see signs along the road that say "No Hunting In Shit Township." They are invalid. Local cops might arrest you but you would win on appeal. Most places realize now that they can't stop legal hunting but leave the signs to scare away the uninformed.

[Royinmontco]

Right, but the question is NOT about hunting, its about "discharging" for other purposes (like target shooting), which PGC has no jurisdiction over.

[free]

As written, the law prohibits (subject to court interpretation) firearms on school grounds, not school property. Tbe laws supposedly say what they mean, and mean what they say, so there is a difference between the two

I own some land. Please describe the difference between my grounds and my property, with respect to this land.

[Statkowski]

I own some land. Please describe the difference between my grounds and my property, with respect to this land.

You own two plots of land. One plot has your house on it. That's considered curtilage (an area of land attached to a house and forming one enclosure with it.). Your other plot is across the street/road/highway/whatever. Both are your property, but only one is curtilage.

School grounds are its curtilage. The bus garage a half mile away, or the football/soccer field across the street, might also be school property, but it's not school grounds.

[Bang]

No guns on school grounds as a safety rule for the children sort of falls apart when I am armed in proximity to a school bus loaded with children, and there's nothing the safety nazis can do about it.

[1911Operator]

I’d move, but hey, that’s just me 😁

[jlweaver46]

And as the courts have stated, the law's title means nothing, it's the contents that count.

The offense is committed in the buildings or grounds of the school, not just any real estate the school may own.

§ 912. Possession of weapon on school property.

(b) Offense defined.--A person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if he possesses a weapon in the buildings of, on the grounds of, or in any conveyance providing transportation to or from any elementary or secondary publicly-funded educational institution, any elementary or secondary private school licensed by the Department of Education or any elementary or secondary parochial school.

Seems like you missed something here.

[JenniferG]

other legal purposes. Self protection is a legal purpose last time i checked.

[Bang]

.....other legal purposes. Such as voting, while school is not in operation for teaching, no students present.