Why I don't travel to MD - for non-gunners

[Sgt.K]

Yes, I get it. You don't want a penny to go to the state. Is a statement that Maryland will never hear more important than your family? The OP is fighting with his mom, and he's missing out on a trip with his son, who apparently doesn't live with him. Serious question - do those family issues not factor into your equation at all?

1. Mom has always brushed off my feelings regarding my rights, and it's time she heard me.
2. I'm not missing out on a trip. I'm missing out on THAT possible trip, which is only one of a long list of destinations she is considering.
3. The boy is in his 20s. We've been to Philmont and Pikes Peak together, among others. He's had other offers to do things with me that he has shrugged off. He would only be going to this one because he doesn't have the mom-guilt filter that I do.

Here's another question - do you boycott Maryland companies? If not, doesn't that violate your "not a penny to MD" stance? No more hotel stays at the many Marriott and Choice brands, no more Perdue food products or DeWalt, Black & Decker or Craftsman tools, no more Sinclair Broadcasting programs, Geico, Polk Audio, LWRC rifles, Under Armour, no watching Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, the Science Channel or TLC, no medical treatments at Johns Hopkins (where my brother in law went for cancer treatment), and a bunch of other brands and companies. And if you're going to boycott Maryland companies because they pay taxes to the state, shouldn't you boycott companies in NY, NJ, CT, CA and other communist states?

Try to prevent every penny from going to a communist state and you'll live like a crazy hermit. Good luck with that.

I rarely travel where I need hotels. Never bought a DeWalt, and it's been years since I bought a Craftsman. I don't watch cable. I listen to news radio.

While it may be difficult to avoid dealing with some large companies headquartered in communist states, I can avoid crossing into their territory and actually handing my money to them.

I am constantly asking subjects of these states why they don't move. Not going to those states is me putting (or not putting, as the case may be) my money where my mouth is. I prefer to leave wishy-washy to Charlie Brown and stick to my principles like EM with Dick's.

[scruff]

1. Mom has always brushed off my feelings regarding my rights, and it's time she heard me.
2. I'm not missing out on a trip. I'm missing out on THAT possible trip, which is only one of a long list of destinations she is considering.
3. The boy is in his 20s. We've been to Philmont and Pikes Peak together, among others. He's had other offers to do things with me that he has shrugged off. He would only be going to this one because he doesn't have the mom-guilt filter that I do.


I rarely travel where I need hotels. Never bought a DeWalt, and it's been years since I bought a Craftsman. I don't watch cable. I listen to news radio.

While it may be difficult to avoid dealing with some large companies headquartered in communist states, I can avoid crossing into their territory and actually handing my money to them.

I am constantly asking subjects of these states why they don't move. Not going to those states is me putting (or not putting, as the case may be) my money where my mouth is. I prefer to leave wishy-washy to Charlie Brown and stick to my principles like EM with Dick's.

No offense, but it really sounds like you're trying to push your views onto your mom and friends. If a friend of mine was constantly telling me to move because his political views or priorities were different than mine, that would piss me off. What gives you the right to try to dictate where they should live? And how do you know your mom hasn't heard you? She's an adult. She has the right to her own views, she's under no obligation to adopt yours. My mom and I will never agree on guns, but she doesn't put up a fuss about me carrying around her, and I don't try to force my opinions on her. It's not that she "doesn't listen to me". She knows how I feel, we just don't agree. I'd rather have a good relationship with her than to make an issue out of it.

It wouldn't be so terrible to tell your mom "I generally avoid giving them even a penny because of their abuse of Second Amendment rights, but I'll make an exception this one time since you want to go". That doesn't mean you're stabbing your fellow gun owners in the back, it just means that your family is important too. If you can't bend even a tiny bit for your family, you've officially graduated to zealot, IMHO.

I would be kicking myself in the head if I had said "yeah, I really want to go to Trump's inauguration, but Maryland might get a few bucks from me from sales tax on food and gas, so fuck it, I'll stay home. THAT will show them!"

[Justin///M]

I'm taking mom's side on this one. Go live a little. Have a good time with your family. Apologize to your mom and make her and your son happy.

MD is dangerous? More so for a black teenager in the city, not so much for you on a single day trip. Can't carry a gun? How about a good can of pepper spray and a knife? (Do you have pepper spray? If not, why not?) You wanted to send a message by not going there and not spending money? No one was going to hear that message anyway.

I don't believe we should be so dogmatic about guns that we can't live our lives. I'm not giving up all cultural and pro sports events, museums, concerts, amusement parks, and travel to a myriad of fun and interesting places because guns, and I certainly don't want to deprive my family of all that.

If I was so inflexible about "muh guns" , using your logic, I'd have missed experiencing one of the greatest events of my lifetime, the inauguration of Donald Trump! (I did get a Kubotan past the TSA agent who searched me on the Mall) That trip was certainly worth some minimal amount of risk, and so is a nice trip to the museum in Baltimore with your family. No offense, but if you're that risk-intolerant, stay at home, lock your door, and wrap yourself in friggin bubble wrap. There's more to self-defense than guns, and there's more to life.

Word. Rep cannon fired.

Plus, Maryland Live casino is in Maryland, and it's the best casino west of the Mississippi for poker, IMO.

[CycleTech]

1. Mom has always brushed off my feelings regarding my rights, and it's time she heard me.
2. I'm not missing out on a trip. I'm missing out on THAT possible trip, which is only one of a long list of destinations she is considering.
3. The boy is in his 20s. We've been to Philmont and Pikes Peak together, among others. He's had other offers to do things with me that he has shrugged off. He would only be going to this one because he doesn't have the mom-guilt filter that I do.


I rarely travel where I need hotels. Never bought a DeWalt, and it's been years since I bought a Craftsman. I don't watch cable. I listen to news radio.

While it may be difficult to avoid dealing with some large companies headquartered in communist states, I can avoid crossing into their territory and actually handing my money to them.

I am constantly asking subjects of these states why they don't move. Not going to those states is me putting (or not putting, as the case may be) my money where my mouth is. I prefer to leave wishy-washy to Charlie Brown and stick to my principles like EM with Dick's.

I am with ya on this. Not a DAMN dime that I can control. I would go out of my way to spend my money elsewhere.

[RockIsland]

The wife and I went to the Naval Academy for a party for a retired Rear Admiral Saturday night. He was Commandant of Midshipmen in the 80's and is the current Commandant's dad.

There was no way I was going to miss this man's 80th birthday celebration. We had a great time with some truly amazing people. The food was also out of this world.

[sontavas]

I will never understand why gun owners on this forum are so intimidated by not being able to carry. I've read countless posts about how guys who refuse to cross the state line into MD/NJ or take their family to Hershey Park if they cant carry. When did we turn into a bunch of snowflakes? As stated above, if you don't feel safe without a firearm on your hip then perhaps you should not leave your house.

I can understand "putting your money where your mouth is", but when we start boycotting whole states, I think we have crossed the line.

**Full disclosure, I live in Maryland**

[scruff]

I will never understand why gun owners on this forum are so intimidated by not being able to carry. I've read countless posts about how guys who refuse to cross the state line into MD/NJ or take their family to Hershey Park if they cant carry. When did we turn into a bunch of snowflakes? As stated above, if you don't feel safe without a firearm on your hip then perhaps you should not leave your house.

I can understand "putting your money where your mouth is", but when we start boycotting whole states, I think we have crossed the line.

**Full disclosure, I live in Maryland**

I hate to think of all the things my wife, my kids and I would have missed out on if I was that much of an absolutist. "Sorry kids, no Pirates games or science center or zoo or arena shows or amusement parks. In fact, fuck Shittsburgh and Philthydelphia, those commie libs. And don't even think about any trips to Washington DC or NYC. We've got the fun park and movie theater right here in Cranberry. C'mon kids, let's do our part for guns! Yay!" Seriously?

[Statkowski]

I can understand "putting your money where your mouth is", but when we start boycotting whole states, I think we have crossed the line.

That line being the Mason-Dixon Line, which some will not cross.

[Sgt.K]

I will never understand why gun owners on this forum are so intimidated by not being able to carry. I've read countless posts about how guys who refuse to cross the state line into MD/NJ or take their family to Hershey Park if they cant carry. When did we turn into a bunch of snowflakes? As stated above, if you don't feel safe without a firearm on your hip then perhaps you should not leave your house.

I can understand "putting your money where your mouth is", but when we start boycotting whole states, I think we have crossed the line.

**Full disclosure, I live in Maryland**

It's not about not being able to carry. It's about being in an environment where the .gov doesn't believe in my rights, and the JBTs are in full agreement, and are perfectly willing to show me that given the slightest opportunity.

In Maryland, the culture comes down from the state gov't, and the fed is not likely to overrule them, so I avoid the state. In Philly (for example), the culture comes from city gov't, but is tempered by the state, so any complaints of .gov oppression can be sent up the chain to be dealt with.

If the authorities are OK with violating the 2nd and 4th Amendments, how do I know they're not willing to violate the rest?

[Sgt.K]

Plus, Maryland Live casino is in Maryland, and it's the best casino west of the Mississippi for poker, IMO.

What part of MD is west of the Mississippi? My maps don't show that?