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October 18th, 2018, 11:06 AM #11Grand Member
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Re: Tamaqua School Board Moving Forward with Arming Staff
I didn't say anything of the kind- I said they should not be expected to counter an armed threat the way a person trained for that specific function would.
Police officers are stretched pretty thin in the firearms competency arena. Their job function is huge and firearms play a pretty small part in it.
I would prefer dedicated gunfighter types in that roll. I have no problem with teachers carrying their personal defense weapons in school.Crusader's local #556 South Central Asia chapter
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October 18th, 2018, 11:24 AM #12
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They don't need to be operators operating operationally.
They just need to be speed-bumps.
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October 18th, 2018, 12:09 PM #13Grand Member
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I don't agree they just need to be speed bumps. Active shooter in a school is closer to a hostage rescue op than just about anything else.
To be clear, I have no issue with teachers that wish to be armed.
In Pa. those teachers can be augmented with armed security, school police officers and school resource officers.
Of those options, the school police officer appears to be a good choice. The qualifications are laid out according to statute.
The qualifications needed are quite a bit more than just a license to carry firearms. Armed teachers are fine- gunfighters AND armed teachers are better.Crusader's local #556 South Central Asia chapter
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October 18th, 2018, 12:58 PM #14
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I do believe you give qualified police more credit for their expertise than they deserve. I have observed the training they get at the local police academy and the standards required. I know many "civilians" that are much better than the police. For example, I belonged to a club and competed in shooting in a style very similar to IPSC . If fact we regularly invited local law enforcement to shoot with us. Some would show up once and walk away embarrassed never to return. The best person ever to shoot with us was in fact a SASS shooter and considered one of the top ten in the sport.
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October 18th, 2018, 01:03 PM #15Banned
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Re: Tamaqua School Board Moving Forward with Arming Staff
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October 18th, 2018, 01:19 PM #16
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My son had a teacher who is an Army Vet last year. I wouldn't mess with her.
Not all teachers are liberal pansies...you only need a few capable teachers to be effective. EVERY teacher shouldn't have a gun...you can't trust liberals with guns, especially in schools, they're the mass shooters!Galations 6:9...And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up.
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October 18th, 2018, 01:20 PM #17
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Galations 6:9...And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up.
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October 18th, 2018, 02:55 PM #18Grand Member
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Re: Tamaqua School Board Moving Forward with Arming Staff
I was the lead firearm/defensive tactics instructor on my agency for 18 years. There were a few guys who were just a soup sammich on the range. Most were capable but nothing special. A very few were excellent.
Most cops are not gun guys- their weapons are just something to blow the nose nuggets and butt fuzz off a couple times a year to qualify. There are others however that fit the bill well.
Sometimes a p.d. will hide their duds by making them the dare officer, school resource officer, detective, Etc. After the disgraceful performance of the dud in Florida, those days may be ending. There are plenty of retired cops and military that would qualify for the position, not typical policemen or vets but those that have a little more advanced tactical training.
It's not that hard to find guys that are well trained with a little gas left in the tank to do the job. It gets a little more complicated finding ones that can comport themselves in a school setting but it's far from impossible.
No doubt, the odds of needing someone for the ultimate bad day is very, very small. None the less, schools in Pa. are warming up to the idea. The school police officers are used for a myarid of functions around the school when they're not busy putting down mass shooting events.Crusader's local #556 South Central Asia chapter
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October 18th, 2018, 04:06 PM #19Banned
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October 18th, 2018, 06:30 PM #20Grand Member
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I'm looking forward to all of those details.
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