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Thread: Elections Have Consequences
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November 9th, 2018, 09:47 PM #41Grand Member
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Re: Elections Have Consequences
You're thinking in terms of zero sum options. Almost never does 100 percent of the population vote. Usually it's sixty percent of eligible voters. As you can see below, it was below fifty percent in WV.
We have a two party system because the two parties push everyone out of the field. They gimmick ballot access. They play games.
Seems to me that we have a bigger problem than just two parties, don't we?
According to this source, in May 2018 there were 1,227,600 registered voters in WV. (see http://wvmetronews.com/2018/04/24/de...-registration/ )
Assume that there were not too many last minute registrations or deaths.
Add all three candidates, you get 582,911 votes.
644,689 voters did not vote for these three. Roughly 27 times as many people voted for "nobody" as voted for Hollen.
It's kind of presumptive to say that Hollen's supporters should have voted for Morrisey. What appeals to a libertarian might not appeal to a Republican.
If anyone has any anger, they ought to be aiming it at the over 1/2 million WV voters who refused to come out and vote for their rights. They sat around on their damn hands instead of voting.
I also think that we need to quit relying on the Republicans to help us out. They're fair weather friends. Much as Libertarians seem weak they are pretty solid gun rights people.Last edited by GeneCC; November 9th, 2018 at 10:31 PM.
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November 9th, 2018, 10:12 PM #42Grand Member
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I was third party for many years. George H Bush was the one who convinced me to go Libertarian. He and the Heritage Institute under Ed Feulmer said that "assault weapons" were the weapon of choice of drug dealers. Bill Bennett, Bush's "drug czar" said the same damn thing. I stuck with them until Harry Browne bought his nomination.
We gun owners have to elect the right people. We have to abuse them when they betray us. We also have to hassle the people who hassle us.
We really have to take the battle of ideas against Bloomberg and his puke friends. They're liars. We have to show much they lie.
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November 9th, 2018, 10:15 PM #43
Re: Elections Have Consequences
Gender confusion is a mental illness
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November 9th, 2018, 10:20 PM #44Grand Member
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You ever spend any time with Libertarians? They don't often vote for Republicans. Republicans are "too statist" for them. Especially about drug policy. Me, I could care less about drugs. I do believe that the war on drugs drives violence. Violence raises murders. Murders give gun control nuts something to bitch about.
Would a Democrat who loves Unions, wants to make everyone's income closer, who wants to force people to bake the cake, want a Laissez Faire Libertarian politician? Really?
The numbers above don't lie. Most people in WV stayed home or didn't vote for a Senator.
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November 9th, 2018, 11:46 PM #45
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There is another explanation no one seems to want to face but to me it's as obvious as Nancy Pelosi's damaged brain. Electronic vote rigging. There are two reasons why it's so obvious. 1) it so easy to do. 2) there is little or no consequence if caught and no interest in uncovering it but the rewards for not getting caught are huge. There's no way that electronic vote rigging isn't occurring on a large scale. There's no way for citizens to prove it's going on or not going on and no one is looking. No one should be confident in the integrity of our voting systems, there is no integrity. I stick my paper ballot into a machine and it scans and records my vote but I have no idea how it's recorded and there's no way to find out.
I remember back in the late 90's when I'd tell my so-called educated friends that there were easy ways of even Junior High students called script kiddies to infiltrate their home computers with viruses and spyware and shut down whole websites and networks using what was known as bots in those days. Hokey smokes, you're a a moron to believe those kind of things Jennifer. I was heavily involved with different groups studying bots, firewalls, spyware etc... back in those days. I wrote those friends off as nothing more than your standard sheeple and they still believe everything is OK even to this day. So much for college education.
If things keep going as they are headed with electronic elections there won't be a single voting machine that won't be manipulated by those that count the votes. It's going on unchecked. Those script kiddies are now CEO's and political hacks.Corruption is the default behavior of government officials. JPC
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