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October 4th, 2018, 05:35 PM #11
Re: Senators Who Voted for HB 2060 Gun Confiscation Bill
He is a Democrat with an "R" behind his name. He was also instrumental in getting Bob Nutting, billionaire owner of the Pittsburgh Pirates, a $1,000,000 grant for "economic development" at Nutting's ski resorts.
Corporate welfare is strictly prohibited by Article VIII, Section 8, of the state constitution.
§ 8. Commonwealth credit not to be pledged.
The credit of the Commonwealth shall not be pledged or loaned to any individual, company, corporation or association nor shall the Commonwealth become a joint owner or stockholder in any company, corporation or association.
I hear you, but I think voting for these frauds leads to more (in your words) Trans-Republicans, not less. In this case, I think short-term pain is necessary for long-term gain.
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October 5th, 2018, 11:05 AM #12
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October 5th, 2018, 09:16 PM #13Junior Member
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Re: Senators Who Voted for HB 2060 Gun Confiscation Bill
So I called Senator Stefano's office this morning to express my disappointment in his vote for HB 2060. Some things that stood out to me in his assistant's responses:
- I was told the bill would protect the police and help save police officers -- please by all means, but not until I have been convicted of a crime.
- I was informed due process was arguing your case before a judge, which is what the accused will be able to do -- I thought due process was either being convicted or acquitted of a crime not arguing about what you might and might not do.
- When I asked why organizations like FOAC would be against this bill, he stated he had no idea -- tells me they are not listening, or he didn't want to bring up any of the bill's negatives.
- Best part, I was advised not to read the bill, due to too much legal ease within the text, but instead Stefano's assistant suggested I simply listen to what the Senator had to say about the legislation -- OK, sure thing
- I also inquired as to when there would likely be a pro-gun bill, maybe restricting the state from banning the carry of firearms during a state of emergency. -- I was informed there will be no pro gun legislation until we elect another governor. Wish I could tell my boss at work there is nothing I can do, and it's not worth trying.
My take from the call is they are totally on board with this bill, almost to the point of being proud of it. Sad, but that was my take away from the call.
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October 5th, 2018, 09:21 PM #14
Re: Senators Who Voted for HB 2060 Gun Confiscation Bill
How can you have any cookies if you don't drink your milk?
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October 5th, 2018, 10:31 PM #15
Re: Senators Who Voted for HB 2060 Gun Confiscation Bill
Most of the lawmakers simply ignored their constituents. They were pressured by GOP leadership to vote yes or else there would be no more campaign funds for reelection. They were told to justify their vote as protecting women from domestic abuse.
So why was GOP hell bent on pushing it through? To help Wolf... and therefore hurt Wagner. Wolf can say he signed legislation to protect women. They would rather have Wolf serve 1 final term so Turzai can run in 2022. If Wagner wins, they know he'll go 2 terms which makes Turzai wait until 2026. Also, they hate Wagner because he's not part of the corrupt establishment and is committed to busting their stranglehold on government.Help us restore election integrity in PA. Join PA Voters United
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October 6th, 2018, 12:15 AM #16
Re: Senators Who Voted for HB 2060 Gun Confiscation Bill
This is scary because it looks like the voting percentage breakdown on some of the recent New Jersey anti gun bills
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October 6th, 2018, 12:22 AM #17
Re: Senators Who Voted for HB 2060 Gun Confiscation Bill
Killion of SEPA District 9 needs to be primary-ed. If he's not busy voting against gun rights, he's busy pandering to every Soros or Doomburg-funded anti-gun org.
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October 6th, 2018, 12:29 AM #18
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October 6th, 2018, 03:17 AM #19Grand Member
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October 6th, 2018, 11:03 AM #20
Re: Senators Who Voted for HB 2060 Gun Confiscation Bill
Did anyone actually read and understand the parts I emboldened?
''Under this legislation an individual found guilty and sentenced before a judge would be required to relinquish any and all firearms in their possession narrowing the window of time in which convicted abusers would have to relinquish their weapons from 60 days to 48 hours for an individual convicted of the misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.
The defendant would be prohibited from turning over their weapons to a family member or friend and instead would be required to relinquish them to law enforcement, an authorized gun dealer or an attorney.
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So you guys think violent convicted wife-beaters should keep their guns?I don't speak English , I talk American!
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