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    Default HB 2682 ID to purchase ammo

    I think I'd oppose this based on existing law that goes largely unenforced and future amendments. It is already a federal felony for one of the 9 classes of person banned firearms and ammo under GCA '68 to purchase or possess ammo. Also I see no call for background check or record keeping on the part of seller, but that will come later

    Regular Session 2017-2018
    House Bill 2682

    Short Title: An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous articles, providing for identification required for purchase of firearm ammunition.

    Prime Sponsor: Representative KIRKLAND

    Last Action: Referred to JUDICIARY, Oct. 1, 2018 [House]

    Memo: Identification for Ammunition Purchases
    Last edited by Brick; October 3rd, 2018 at 05:23 PM.

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    Default Re: HB 2684 ID to purchase ammo

    There's no way this passes right? Normally I would think this would get quashed with the Republican majority, but with the PFA vote recently I'm not so sure anymore.

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    Default Re: HB 2684 ID to purchase ammo

    Remember the old days when FFLs had to record ammo buyers?

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    Default Re: HB 2684 ID to purchase ammo

    Would this make it virtually impossible to buy ammo online without going through an FFL?

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    Default Re: HB 2684 ID to purchase ammo

    Idiots. In 1970's we had a hit execution style in back of head. The recovered projectile was a Lyman cast lead semi-wadcutter .45ACP. The killer used a reloaded round. It was mob-connected, and the hit-man avoided purchasing ready-made ammo. P.S.- he also left no expended case behind.

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    Default Re: HB 2684 ID to purchase ammo

    Quote Originally Posted by PewPewPtwang View Post
    Would this make it virtually impossible to buy ammo online without going through an FFL?
    From the way it reads no, unlike CA where you have to have any ammunition purchased over the internet transferred through an FFL. This would be like how online retailers treat NJ customers with having to have a copy of the buyers FOID and DL on file. When you buy pistol ammo at Walmart they now check your DL, however that is their policy and not the law of the state, at least not yet.
    Last edited by Hodgie; October 2nd, 2018 at 02:04 PM.

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    Default Re: HB 2684 ID to purchase ammo

    Walmart has tried and will probably try again to differentiate between pistol and rifle ammo. In that effort, all they can do is rely on the statement of the purchaser. And how long will it take a fill-in clerk to know all the pistol calibers used in rifles?

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    Default Re: HB 2684 ID to purchase ammo

    Quote Originally Posted by Brick View Post
    I think I'd oppose this based on existing law that goes largely unenforced and future amendments. It is already a federal felony for one of the 9 classes of person banned firearms and ammo under GCA '68 to purchase or possess ammo. Also I see no call for background check or record keeping on the part of seller, but that will come later
    As I read HB 2684, it is only effecting the sale of fireworks.

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    Default Re: HB 2684 ID to purchase ammo

    Req it for Voting first

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    Default Re: HB 2684 ID to purchase ammo

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Kipwell View Post
    Remember the old days when FFLs had to record ammo buyers?
    They had to record buyers of handgun ammo who had to be over 21, including all .22 rimfire.
    I don't speak English , I talk American!

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