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    Default Re: Able to shoot at the Range even if unable to own

    21 U.S.C.
    § 802. Definitions
    As used in this subchapter:
    (1) The term ‘‘addict’’ means any individual
    who habitually uses any narcotic drug so as to
    endanger the public morals, health, safety, or
    welfare, or who is so far addicted to the use of
    narcotic drugs as to have lost the power of selfcontrol
    with reference to his addiction.

    It doesn't say anything about someone who has quit using drugs. Any different than a person who was a habitual drunk stopping drinking and cleaning up their act and had never been convicted of any crime(s)?
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    Default Re: Able to shoot at the Range even if unable to own

    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    On this topic I now have a question. What if I'm carrying and a prohibited person wants me to give him a ride (asking for a friend).
    IMO you should be ok as you have control of the firearm and your "friend" would not have unrestricted access to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter View Post
    On this topic I now have a question. What if I'm carrying and a prohibited person wants me to give him a ride (asking for a friend).

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    I do have to follow up with what I said "IMO you should be ok as you have control of the firearm and your "friend" would not have unrestricted access to it."

    If you know beforehand that person is prohibited - I would probably remove my firearm from the holster, store it where the "rider" can't have access to it, drop them off and then put it back in my holster. That way you would be completely within the law.
    If you don't know that the person is prohibited, then ??? Do you routinely ask people before they get in a car with you when you are carrying if they are prohibited?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xringshooter View Post
    IMO you should be ok as you have control of the firearm and your "friend" would not have unrestricted access to it.
    This is Key to as having complete control of firearm,IE Concealed in holster on your person would be highly recommended,and if pulled over for any reason declare you CCW you would not be under any duress to disclose the felon status of passenger,BUT If they run a 28 & 29 and find out their status and you did not declare a firearm,well its on you !

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    Default Re: Able to shoot at the Range even if unable to own

    Quote Originally Posted by FBG001 View Post
    Just because someone has a history of addiction doesn't make them a prohibited person. You need to look at federal and state definitions.
    Have you filled out a 4473 before? I'm not being a troll, I am asking a serious question.

    ...and there I go misunderstanding the issue. That is a my bad.

    In the case of firing at the range and NOT being a prohibited person, a felon or someone imprisoned that could result in prohibition... you should be fine. The question would then be what is on the criminal record, if applicable. IANAL.
    Last edited by Didnotcomply89; September 14th, 2018 at 02:22 PM.

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    Default Re: Able to shoot at the Range even if unable to own

    Quote Originally Posted by Monty83 View Post
    My fiance is unable to own a firearm, but has never been shooting and would like to try it. She is a recovering addict, so cannot own, but no violence or anything of that nature. I know shooting helps relax me, and was thinking it would help her as well. Is she able to legally go to a range and shoot?

    Thanks
    NO!!!!! As everyone else has said. And since she's not a criminal, she'd probably get the book thrown at her. You too. The real criminals routinely get the prohibited person charge dropped.

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    Default Re: Able to shoot at the Range even if unable to own

    Quote Originally Posted by FBG001 View Post
    Just because someone has a history of addiction doesn't make them a prohibited person. You need to look at federal and state definitions.
    OP stated she was prohibited, at least that's what I thought he said.

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    Default Re: Able to shoot at the Range even if unable to own

    Quote Originally Posted by SevenMilePete View Post
    OP stated she was prohibited, at least that's what I thought he said.
    Reread the OPs statement, he really doesn't know the laws to know if she is prohibited and he has not replied to questions about her "criminal record".

    He joined in Sept 2018, posted once with one followup response and has not answered the questions needed to give a definitive answer. Hummm???
    Last edited by Xringshooter; September 15th, 2018 at 01:25 PM.
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    Default Re: Able to shoot at the Range even if unable to own

    Facts from the OPs scenario aside,

    Do we all agree that there is NO scenario where one can be actually prohibited/disqualified from purchase, but allowed to possess/shoot someone else's gun?

    Either you're legally clear to have your own, or you're not, and that means you can't possess someone else's either.

    Yes?
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