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    Default Social Media specifically for gun owners?

    Anyone else use Mastodon?

    I am running a masto server and have been intrigued how the software is coded. For those of you who don't know, it's a Twitter replacement that doesn't rely on a company to run it. It's like the gun boards where there's a bunch of different sites.

    But instead of setting up accounts everywhere---the Mastodon network federates posts between servers. It's possible to set up a bunch of mastodon servers specifically geared to gun owners and then block the servers where far-left Anarcho-Communists, Antifa and antis hang out so there's a "Trump wall".


    And since there's no company that runs it, reporting posts go to a gun owner... rather than what happens now where you have some anti who hates you because you're 2A and claims you're threatening violence because you posted a picture of your cool toy.


    What do y'all think?

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    I can't help but notice that you posted this on a social media site that's specifically for gun owners, and moderated by pro-gun folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    I can't help but notice that you posted this on a social media site that's specifically for gun owners, and moderated by pro-gun folks.

    It's a board. Which is one step above a 19,200bps modem calling a BBS run off a Commodore 64. Where the owners won't even install a plugin to allow this thing to be used with a phone app.

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    Anything that lets our side be heard is good in my book. I have a different opinion when it comes to twitter and facebook censoring those they don’t like. It aggravates me and I think it speaks volumes on their mind set, but I do not want the government stepping in and forcing them to promote speech they do not want to. Having the government controlling private entities like this through laws is too much on the road to Socialism for me and gives them more control than I am comfortable with.

    I like the idea of others coming up with stuff like this or creating alternate version of twitter, facebook etc..... Getting them off the ground can be tough though, look at Mewe. But it is possible. 10 years ago media was dominated by the mainstream, but people like Breitbart stepped up and created an alternative that people use. The same will happen with social media.

    I would love for someone with money and the outlet to make a viable network step up and either get someone to make one, or promote one that someone has made. Even though I do not listen to them much, can you imagine if a Rush Limbaugh or a Hanity were to create a facebook or twitter alternative aimed at conservatives? And they promoted it with their networks. That could be a hit that serves two purposes.

    1. It’s not crying to the government asking them to make the meanies to fight fair.

    2. As conservatives leave it hits the bottom line of Facebook and Twitter.

    And this is important, we are the product that they make money off of. I am sure they both donate to causes, I doubt they are 2nd amendment friendly causes. Leaving hurts them in their bottom line. And as income goes into the other sources some can go to programs the right approves of if the owners so choose.

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    Default Re: Social Media specifically for gun owners?

    Quote Originally Posted by internet troll View Post
    I have a different opinion when it comes to twitter and facebook censoring those they don’t like.
    Too many internet trolls there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKIII View Post
    Too many internet trolls there.

    There's no place really that's free of trolls. Mastodon has them as well. Right now a bunch of far-leftists are decamping Twitter because Twitter has to apply its policies equally, so the shitdoxing and other stuff that camp does is causing some largely-followed accounts to get booted from the platform in the same manner that Alex Jones was.


    Mastodon works a bit more like IRC (or phpBB boards) in that there's a confederation of servers that agree to trade with each other. It doesn't have to be regionally-grouped like PAFOA is (this isn't a very popular site for, say, Texas gun owners). Since far-leftists and antis will lose their shit as they always do about firearms owners being allowed on the Internets---Mastodon server owners can just cut themselves off from the broader Fediverse (the network of servers that talk to each other). So that way most trolls would have to sign up on a firearms server in order to troll.

    So basically you get a Twitter that firearms owners control--rather than a company that bends to the whim of Diane Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi. You can always create a non-firearms Mastodon account on an outside server and link between the two.



    We've already seen so many gun channels get cut off on YouTube. PeerTube is becoming the answer for that one as well. It's a decentralized YouTube that uses torrent to watch videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by internet troll View Post
    Anything that lets our side be heard is good in my book. I have a different opinion when it comes to twitter and facebook ...
    My opinion is I use neither of the two for which you have an opinion.
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    The problem I have with it is this: we need to NOT be segregated away from the non-gun owning public. We need to be seen and heard. This is why FB et al. are trying to kick us off and silence us. They didn't bother with it until recently because they thought we were insignificant, disorganized, etc. but then when we stood up the the O-hole, beat back all the anti gun pushes after Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, etc. and then beat Hillary then all the sudden we had to be shut down. We beat the media and big academia because we had equal speech and visibility--they don't want to allow that.

    We can't let them win by letting them shove us into a corner where the only people who see us are us because then we're back to having no voice. So hell no we don't retreat to places especially for gun owners and/or conservatives. That's separate but equal, you see?
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    Well this be where the sausage is made. Hold someone’s hand and grab a seat. Now we be constitutional folk with high beliefs in personal property rights, free speech, gun owning, freedom loving people.

    Bringing the nasty socialist owned private enterprises under jurisdiction of free speech entails declaring them a public utility. A virtual public place. Eminent domain over server farms that house the virtual community space they contain. Think of the taxes that would need to be levied on every unimaginably dissected transaction of every moving part to fund the ever increasing size of the farms and their management. Think of the disturbance of the present economy of the internet.

    One way or other it will be dystopian government or corporations collecting and dissecting every everything.

    What the people do not want, they can be made to happily do to themselves.

    It’s how we got here. 1984 has been gladly bought into existence with the latest greatest gadgetry. The infrastructure is in place. Now the doors are being chained.

    Go out and vote! Don’t sit this one out ever again. Drain the swamp. Stand the f. Up. Get off your butt. Spread the word. We can win! You got to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsnwater View Post
    Well this be where the sausage is made. Hold someone’s hand and grab a seat. Now we be constitutional folk with high beliefs in personal property rights, free speech, gun owning, freedom loving people.

    Bringing the nasty socialist owned private enterprises under jurisdiction of free speech entails declaring them a public utility. A virtual public place. Eminent domain over server farms that house the virtual community space they contain. Think of the taxes that would need to be levied on every unimaginably dissected transaction of every moving part to fund the ever increasing size of the farms and their management. Think of the disturbance of the present economy of the internet.

    One way or other it will be dystopian government or corporations collecting and dissecting every everything.

    What the people do not want, they can be made to happily do to themselves.

    It’s how we got here. 1984 has been gladly bought into existence with the latest greatest gadgetry. The infrastructure is in place. Now the doors are being chained.

    Go out and vote! Don’t sit this one out ever again. Drain the swamp. Stand the f. Up. Get off your butt. Spread the word. We can win! You got to vote.

    Yeah but I don't want to wait for the debate on regulating centralized social media sites to run its course. I'd rather like to see a solution to this.

    I'm not saying phpBB boards are bad. They're indep owned and operated by real gun owners at the helm---who we personally know.

    There is now a social media alternative that pulls the power away from Silicon Valley. Instead of them fighting to take down users on two social media sites--they now have to contend with the existing set of phpBB board owners PLUS this new network where gun owners have social media that's theirs and they control.

    I'm also not saying anyone should abandon Facebook or Twitter either. What I *am* saying is that we should have some social media alternatives that completely take Silicon Valley companies out of even being involved in the decision-making process entirely so that the attack surface for antis is small.


    I mean we're dealing with people who went after hickok45's youtube channel, for fuck's sake.

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