LEOSA training

[Bang]

I purchased two 10-round mags for my Glock 23. I painted the little disassembly button silver on them. At a glance, I can keep track of which mag is PRNJ-compliant. I do not load that final round in any Glock mag, just to give the spring (and my fingers) a break. Never go into New York. Never will.

[cdi]

I retired from a p.d. in N.J. I called 3 hr218 instructors from the pasp web site.
They all said I needed to have a "retired" id card, which my former agency does not issue. I still have and carry my "active" id card.

I read the federal statute and it says nothing about a "retired" id card, but the instructors were adamant even though they could not point out where a "retired" card was specified.
I got tired of dealing with these brain dead knuckle heads.

I ordered a custom rubber stamp from "Rubber Stamp Champ" and an indelible red ink pad for about 12.00
I now have an active card with the word "retired" prominently stamped in red letters across the reverse.

I also said screw the dimwits in central Bucks and went up to Heritage Guild where I qualified with no issues and got the new democrat sheriff in Doylestown to sing my card in about 15 minutes.
Pa. changes the statute to suit themselves....

[Carson]

I purchased two 10-round mags for my Glock 23. I painted the little disassembly button silver on them. At a glance, I can keep track of which mag is PRNJ-compliant. I do not load that final round in any Glock mag, just to give the spring (and my fingers) a break. Never go into New York. Never will.

North American Arms Guardian or Glock 43 both 6&1 for NY.

[Carson]

I retired from a p.d. in N.J. I called 3 hr218 instructors from the pasp web site.
They all said I needed to have a "retired" id card, which my former agency does not issue. I still have and carry my "active" id card.

I read the federal statute and it says nothing about a "retired" id card, but the instructors were adamant even though they could not point out where a "retired" card was specified.
I got tired of dealing with these brain dead knuckle heads.

I ordered a custom rubber stamp from "Rubber Stamp Champ" and an indelible red ink pad for about 12.00
I now have an active card with the word "retired" prominently stamped in red letters across the reverse.

I also said screw the dimwits in central Bucks and went up to Heritage Guild where I qualified with no issues and got the new democrat sheriff in Doylestown to sing my card in about 15 minutes.
Pa. changes the statute to suit themselves....

I found the “Retired” credential info here.

https://www.psp.pa.gov/MPOETC/rleia/Pages/default.aspx

[cdi]

Thanks for the citation. I read that some time ago when I first started shopping for an hr218 instructor.
Those laws cover (I think) officers that retired from service in the Commonwealth.

I retired from a pd in N.J. so Pa. has no interest or ability to issue me a "retired" card. I have to dance with who brung me- N.J.
None of the certifiers from Pa. would qualify me because of my out of state id. They were unable to cope outside the box and default the federal statute.

I could easily qualify in N.J. because it's so close. However, N.J. has you go through the permit process and is much more expensive. Besides, I'm a Pa. resident now.
What would an officer do if he retired in Calif.?

[MARINE DIVISION TWO]

I did the LEOSA training for years,Stopped jumping the hoops every year and carry Retired I D and Shield !

[unclejumbo]

I did the LEOSA training for years,Stopped jumping the hoops every year and carry Retired I D and Shield !

A good many LEOs would be fine to deal with that way. I'm not even that concerned about the ones that aren't. I'd be worried about using it for self defense and all of the close scrutiny that would incur. Just not worth the chance.

[Berncly]

To steve didn’t you read my posting? I said that my former agency doesn’t allow me or anyone else to photo copy my credentials for any reason reguardless of what it’s needed for

Why do you need to copy your credentials?

[kb3djs]

Yes I have retired credentials w/badge and my former agency policy is that no one is allowed to copy them not even me. So as long as I carry their credentials I have to follow agency policy concerning photo copying of them. The only one I believe that can authorize photo copying is the director or the secretary of defense.

[kb3djs]

Can I get the number to call them so that I can get my qualification done for the range? I would appreciate it. Thanks