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    Default Re: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473

    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    check one:
    male:
    female:
    other:

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    Default Re: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473

    Get rid of the gender requirement at all. Social security numbers and fingerprints don't care what is in your pants or how you dress or who you believe yourself to be.

    If it is a problem and we have to keep it-- take it to the chromosomes: (1) XX (2) XY.

    Those who are intersex can choose who they like
    "If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy."

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    Default Re: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473

    Quote Originally Posted by Daycrawler View Post
    If I were the FFL checking the 4473, and the information was incorrect, the sale would be cancelled. When the feds come around and scrutinize the paperwork, and find any error, the FFL will get called out on it. It happened and I know it. The realistic and simple solution is make sure the information is correct. If the buyer refuses to answer correctly, then I would refuse to make the sale. Its better to loose a small profit than the FFL.
    THIS.

    There is no "non-binary" check box on a 4473(8/1/2018). I would ask them their sex on their birth certificate. If they refuse the answer, I refuse the sale. Depending on their attitude, or if they are one sex, and identify as another(not clear which to be the birth sex) then they may lie on the form, and it can still fall on the FFL. If what they check differs from what is on their I.D, they can leave.

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    Default Re: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473

    Quote Originally Posted by coppery View Post
    THIS.

    There is no "non-binary" check box on a 4473(8/1/2018). I would ask them their sex on their birth certificate. If they refuse the answer, I refuse the sale. Depending on their attitude, or if they are one sex, and identify as another(not clear which to be the birth sex) then they may lie on the form, and it can still fall on the FFL. If what they check differs from what is on their I.D, they can leave.
    But, . . . . but, . . . the offended will sue and we will have the courts then ruling that the FFL must complete the illegal sale or be fined or imprisoned for hate speech.

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    Default Re: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilderness 1864 View Post
    But, . . . . but, . . . the offended will sue and we will have the courts then ruling that the FFL must complete the illegal sale or be fined or imprisoned for hate speech.
    that would be fucking hilarious.

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    LOL! I got neg rep'ed for this?

    Thread: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473
    I'm not gay or some such. I still find your title offensive.
    August 8th, 2018 06:57 PM
    rwilson452

    what the fudge knuckles does that even mean? my title is offensive?
    Last edited by sota; August 8th, 2018 at 09:08 PM.
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    Default Re: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473

    Quote Originally Posted by sota View Post
    that would be fucking hilarious.

    ETA @ 2018/08/08 2106:

    LOL! I got neg rep'ed for this?

    Thread: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473
    I'm not gay or some such. I still find your title offensive.
    August 8th, 2018 06:57 PM
    rwilson452

    what the fudge knuckles does that even mean? my title is offensive?
    The title of the thread? It's not even yours.

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    Default Re: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473

    Quote Originally Posted by sota View Post
    that would be fucking hilarious.

    ETA @ 2018/08/08 2106:

    LOL! I got neg rep'ed for this?

    Thread: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473
    I'm not gay or some such. I still find your title offensive.
    August 8th, 2018 06:57 PM
    rwilson452

    what the fudge knuckles does that even mean? my title is offensive?
    Someone bought to tight of silk panties. Not you Sota.

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    Default Re: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473

    Quote Originally Posted by McSull View Post
    The title of the thread? It's not even yours.
    I know. I can't figure out what the fudgy pickles this idiot is referring to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qtrborecrazy View Post
    Someone bought to tight of silk panties. Not you Sota.
    Never liked silk panties. Never felt like they provided enough support for my depth and girth.
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    Default Re: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473

    Quote Originally Posted by sota View Post
    Never liked silk panties.
    It's because you don't know how to cook it right.
    Je suis déplorable

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    Default Re: Genderqueers must check male or female on 4473

    Quote Originally Posted by sota View Post
    I know. I can't figure out what the fudgy pickles this idiot is referring to.



    Never liked silk panties. Never felt like they provided enough support for my depth and girth.
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