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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Fuck em.....headshot

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hodgie View Post
    Do you have to by Law? Probably not, but it sure would look good for you if you did especially if you know what your doing. Every situation is it’s own unique set of circumstances so there really cannot be a set rule for this.
    Be so traumatized at having to engage in a gun battle and possibly kill someone that you could not possibly gather your wits and mental state up to properly render aid to the poor, poor soul that is now bleeding to death and may soon meet his maker. May it put a tear in your eye, a hole in your heart, and, when no one is looking, a smile on your face.

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    K, that post got me, too. Repped.
    Junior

  4. #24
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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Quote Originally Posted by cephas View Post
    Have looked around but found no definitive answer.
    You're involved in using your weapon to defend yourself.
    Attacker is down badly injured.
    Should you render aid until medics arrive?
    Kicker is you have background and mucho experience in advanced trauma care.
    My department has added to the SOP's that we give aid to the suspect. While our scenario will be a little different with other cover officers, EMS, etc. responding almost immediately. We are all human and the thought of aiding someone who was just trying to kill us seems extreme, remember your intent was to "stop the threat" not be judge, jury and executioner.

    While some of these posts are the result of true emotion and dark humor, they won't be so funny if you are sitting in the defendant's chair at a Civil or even worse, Criminal Trial. Just some food for thought. Social Media has been known to come back and bite some in the ass.

  5. #25
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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    You finish him off. We all have seen in movies where the bad guy gets up and continues to wreak havoc after your back is turned! You think he is dead but he isnt, remember Friday the 13th. He came back for a few more movies!
    Facts all come with points of view, facts dont do what I want them to.

  6. #26
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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    all depends on the situation but if the threat is not under control, ie in cuffs or secured.. nope.. just gonna keep the muzzle pointed their way until LEO shows up
    Retired US Army
    NRA Life Member, GOA, USCCA
    "Artificial intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity"

  7. #27
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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrisk View Post
    all depends on the situation but if the threat is not under control, ie in cuffs or secured.. nope.. just gonna keep the muzzle pointed their way until LEO shows up
    Hopefully from behind cover and in a way that you don't appear to be the threat.

  8. #28
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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    I am neither a medical doctor or a mind-reader. I stopped his aggressive assault upon me. Now I have to deal with recognizing I have injured and possibly killed a person. My own heart rate is 108 and I am gasping for breath. I am in no condition to assist without assistance. Sorry. Have to wait for response to my 911, which I called with great difficulty. From what I've read, they are only minutes away.

  9. #29
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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carson View Post
    My department has added to the SOP's that we give aid to the suspect. While our scenario will be a little different with other cover officers, EMS, etc. responding almost immediately. We are all human and the thought of aiding someone who was just trying to kill us seems extreme, remember your intent was to "stop the threat" not be judge, jury and executioner.

    While some of these posts are the result of true emotion and dark humor, they won't be so funny if you are sitting in the defendant's chair at a Civil or even worse, Criminal Trial. Just some food for thought. Social Media has been known to come back and bite some in the ass.
    One of he main reasons why I refrain from posting as much as I want to.

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    If you had to shoot them, the only consideration at that point is your safety. How can you possibly know or trust someone you just had to shoot, that their intentions are genuine? If you both go out with a toe tag because he stuck a knife in your neck when you bent down, whos the better for that? Surely not you. Or your family. Or society. Call 911, cover him with the firearm, reassure him help is on the way. That's as far as I'm going.

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