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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    How do you give them CPR when all that is left are two ankles and feet after hitting them with a 45ACP?
    Well, there wouldn't be ankles or feet left if you hit them with a 10mm nuke. All that would be left is a smoking radioactive smear in your yard.
    "Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things."- Marvin Heemeyer

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    I am asking for a hypothetical friend, is applying a tourniquet to the neck considered providing aid? It will stop the bleeding pretty quick or so I have heard

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Y’all’s training sucks!
    If you had a defensive shoot, and the perp is capable of receiving aid that might actually help, you suck, and need to apply more ‘defensive’ to the situation!

    The gang in blue shoots until the threat stops. Why should I stop any sooner? I’m not able to get their ‘free to them’ VERY EXPENSIVE training.
    Further, even if he’s down, and you blew off all four of his limbs at the trunk, if he can recover and speak, he is still a threat.
    Yeah, that sounds harsh. It was the perp’s choice to put himself in front of your gun. Fuck him! To put it another way, my First Sergeant used to say,” when it is time to introduce deadly force, BE FUCKING DEADLY ABOUT IT!”
    Last edited by Manxdriver; July 31st, 2018 at 04:38 PM.

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Quote Originally Posted by DennisH82 View Post
    I am asking for a hypothetical friend, is applying a tourniquet to the neck considered providing aid? It will stop the bleeding pretty quick or so I have heard
    You only do that if there's a headwound. I learnt that in Sandcut's class.
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Thanks for the responses. Orive 8's makes allot of sense. Intent for thread came from pondering fallout in the aftermath of this situation.
    FYI proper neck tourniquet (sarcasm):
    th.jpeg
    Last edited by cephas; August 7th, 2018 at 12:56 PM.
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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    If I was forced into shooting someone in order to save my life I would immediately notify the authorities and request aid.....by mail.

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    And the perp shoves a knife in your neck when you give aid.

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Quote Originally Posted by cephas View Post
    Kicker is you have background and mucho experience in advanced trauma care.
    Well, I personally still wouldn’t render aid for multiple reasons, he may still be a threat on the ground, your adrenaline is through the roof having just been in a life threatening situation...that being said legally I don’t know if PA had a duty to act law for certified medical providers (I just live here not certified here) and of PA does how that might come into play.

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Quote Originally Posted by ItchyTick View Post
    And the perp shoves a knife in your neck when you give aid.
    Or worse!
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Default Re: Defensive shoot, give aid to attacker?

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    How do you give them CPR when all that is left are two ankles and feet after hitting them with a 45ACP?

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