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    Default Re: Academy Sports manager fired, for stopping gun theif

    Quote Originally Posted by schmol View Post
    the store is located in florida, so guess I wont be driving there just to visit their store...


    Stop using facts. This is POOFA.

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    Default Re: Academy Sports manager fired, for stopping gun theif

    The manager probably has no case against his former employer.

    On the other hand, the next time somebody is shot with a gun stolen from there, the victim (or his estate) can probably get some traction against a store that can't be bothered to lift a finger to prevent criminals from stealing guns.
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    Default Re: Academy Sports manager fired, for stopping gun theif

    Florida is an “at will” state which means an employer can fire an employee for any reason as long as it is not an illegal reason or against a bargained contract. Basically, your boss wants you to not touch “customers” and you touch a “customer” fleeing with a gun and ammo...you can be fired.

    By the way, Pennsylvania is also an “at will” state.

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    Default Re: Academy Sports manager fired, for stopping gun theif

    Does that mean we can touch Will?

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    Default Re: Academy Sports manager fired, for stopping gun theif

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat Gun Owner View Post
    Florida is an “at will” state which means an employer can fire an employee for any reason as long as it is not an illegal reason or against a bargained contract. Basically, your boss wants you to not touch “customers” and you touch a “customer” fleeing with a gun and ammo...you can be fired.

    By the way, Pennsylvania is also an “at will” state.
    That's a given, employers have the right to fire anytime for any reason. They are after all, the employer. I know, I know you want the government to take over private businesses to prevent employers from having anything to do with hiring and firing but that ship has sailed thanks to Trump. This employer though, Academy Sports, has apparently made a public relations faux pas by firing a person that stopped future crimes with his actions. They will pay for this mistake at the cash register as it should be the case. Next we'll be reading how Academy Sports no longer sells firearms because firearms are inconsistent to soccer Mom sports stores.

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    Default Re: Academy Sports manager fired, for stopping gun theif

    Came on to post this.

    Another source: https://keepandbear.com/2a/corporate...sinine-reason/

    CORPORATE SPORTING GOOD STORE FIRES HEROIC MANAGER FOR ASININE REASON!


    It is perfectly fine to admit that we’ve thought about it, sitting in the bank or stopping to grab a lottery ticket at the gas station.
    I’m talking about an armed robbery, of course, and what our reaction would be to such a polarizing act occurring directly within our local purview. Would we be the heroic and stoic type, who simply walks directly into danger in order to save lives? Or would we find ourselves paralyzed with fear, unable to utter even a squeak of concern.

    Or, are we the type who, armed, could make a difference? What about if we were not armed? Then what would we do?

    The answer for one manager at a Tallahassee, Florida Academy Sports store was to tackle a would-be gun thief.

    Dean Crouch, 32, was the store manager who stopped Jason White from leaving the Mahan Drive store with a .40-caliber pistol from the firearms counter on June 29.

    Just hours before he was taken into custody, White stole two handguns from Cash America Pawn on South Adams Street, according to Tallahassee Police.

    White asked to look at the handgun at the firearms counter. He was handed the gun, then ran toward the front door.

    Crouch, who court records say observed the transaction at the counter, and another employee tackled and subdued White at the exit doors and recovered the gun, a stolen backpack, five boxes of ammunition and two magazines for the Glock.

    Heroic, right? Well that’s not what Academy Sports thought.

    The manager of Tallahassee’s Academy Sports was fired Tuesday after tackling a suspect accused of stealing a handgun last week. The suspect also allegedly threatened to shoot people.

    “Academy has decided to, instead of treating him like the hero he is, they terminated his employment effective immediately because he put his hands on Mr. White,” Crouch’s attorney Ryan Hobbs said.

    This is absolutely insanity. We can only hope that Tallahassee area firearm dealers are lining up to take a look at Crouch’s resumé.

    Academy’s pathetic response is right up there with their colleagues over at Dick’s.

    Academy Sports spokeswoman Elise Hasbrook said she could not comment on specific personnel matters or policies.

    However, Crouch’s actions and his termination were handled in accordance with the Texas-based company’s policies.

    “While the incident ended without injury, actions inconsistent with corporate policies were taken,” she said. “We addressed the matter with the local store and individuals involved.”

    Crouch worked at the store for more than two years and is now married with a family and has no way to support them.

    And they called us “deplorable? Give me a break.
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    Default Re: Academy Sports manager fired, for stopping gun theif

    Quote Originally Posted by R L Suehr View Post
    That policy exists at almost every chain retail establishment. If someone steals, your just supposed to let them and call the cops. They don't care about what the thief does at the next place, they just don't want to be sued in the here and now.
    There's more of an incentive to stop a criminal stealing guns and ammo than a blouse. This is another application of no-thinking "no tolerance" policies like the fighting rules in public schools where the victim of bullying gets suspended as long as the bully for "being involved in a fight".

    No common sense exists any more.
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    Default Re: Academy Sports manager fired, for stopping gun theif

    Went over to their facebook page to troll them for their poor decision and they are indeed getting some blow back from this. They've always been great with online orders but this is just dumb. I'm going to send an email to voice my opinion.

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    Default Re: Academy Sports manager fired, for stopping gun theif

    Webster's definition of "customer"...a person or organization that BUYS, goods or services from a store or business. Stealing implies he had no intention of BUYING.
    Me think's he may have a case.

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    Default Re: Academy Sports manager fired, for stopping gun theif

    Quote Originally Posted by alpacaheat View Post
    There's more of an incentive to stop a criminal stealing guns and ammo than a blouse. This is another application of no-thinking "no tolerance" policies like the fighting rules in public schools where the victim of bullying gets suspended as long as the bully for "being involved in a fight".

    No common sense exists any more.
    Oh, I tend to agree. I was just pointing out why the policy is in place. Large corporation's fear lawsuits over anything else. To them, the manager opened the door for one by going after the thief. The gun was just another write off to them.

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