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    Default Re: Will 5.56 NATO be overtaken by a new caliber?

    I've despised the 5.56 since they first took away my M14 in 1967. Bring back the 7.62x51. Kind of surprised that so many who like to carry the largest caliber possible for personal protection are all in on a weenie round for combat.

    Do I want to get hit by one? NO. I don't want to get hit by a .22 either.
    Gun control isn't about guns...it's about control

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    Default Re: Will 5.56 NATO be overtaken by a new caliber?

    Quote Originally Posted by MT1 View Post
    Not till I get issued my light saber.

    Here's a dose of reality for the OP... I'm active military. My gov issued cell phone is a Blackberry. You think we're a bit behind in some areas? I can't tell you how many times I've pulled it out to make a call and someone says, "wow, they still make those things?"
    Quote Originally Posted by JAKIII View Post
    Well, of course... during the RFQ process the US government generally entertains and awards contracts to the lowest bidder.
    I don’t think that was the case with the Blackbery and RIM. They provided a level of security that other manufacturers and carriers could not. Not sure if that is still the case though.

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    Default Re: Will 5.56 NATO be overtaken by a new caliber?

    Quote Originally Posted by buxbandit View Post
    I've despised the 5.56 since they first took away my M14 in 1967. Bring back the 7.62x51. Kind of surprised that so many who like to carry the largest caliber possible for personal protection are all in on a weenie round for combat.

    Do I want to get hit by one? NO. I don't want to get hit by a .22 either.

    Bring back .308 and watch scores and actual hits in combat sink down to unacceptable levels.

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    Default Re: Will 5.56 NATO be overtaken by a new caliber?

    Maybe the real question is to what degree will the military adopt/readopt other calibers to fill needs not met by the 5.56mm cartridge.

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    Default Re: Will 5.56 NATO be overtaken by a new caliber?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ecclectic Collector View Post
    Maybe the real question is to what degree will the military adopt/readopt other calibers to fill needs not met by the 5.56mm cartridge.
    Who said they don't already?

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    Default Re: Will 5.56 NATO be overtaken by a new caliber?

    Yeah the Russian concept of a designated marksman using a full caliber 7.62 rifle really has a lot going for it. No love for the SMG anymore with anybody though for some reason the military is flirting with the idea of adopting one again.

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    Default Re: Will 5.56 NATO be overtaken by a new caliber?

    Quote Originally Posted by Franchi20/28 View Post
    And yet so many people are hung up on only having "mil-spec" parts in their build.
    Isn't this more about interoperability than quality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ecclectic Collector View Post
    Maybe the real question is to what degree will the military adopt/readopt other calibers to fill needs not met by the 5.56mm cartridge.
    As Hodgie and someone early in the thread pointed out, they do. Units field Mk12s, M21s and M25s in .308 in a designated marksman role for that extra reach, .300 Blackout seems to be a favorite of protective details where short-barreled maneuverability and punching through cars are important and outside range is well under 200 yards, and I'm sure somebody is playing around with 6.5 Creedmoor and Valkyrie. This is probably the likely near-future with more and more specific units having access and training with specific platforms for specific mission requirements while the standard units will field 5.56 for years to come.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ecclectic Collector View Post
    Yeah the Russian concept of a designated marksman using a full caliber 7.62 rifle really has a lot going for it. No love for the SMG anymore with anybody though for some reason the military is flirting with the idea of adopting one again.
    Isn't this more protective detail driven, like Secret Service? Need to conceal but need more firepower than a pistol? IDK, just a guess.

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