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June 28th, 2018, 11:56 AM #31
Re: Do any outdoor ranges around Kutztown allow full auto?
I'll stick with the social science of economics, thanks.
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June 28th, 2018, 01:22 PM #32
Re: Do any outdoor ranges around Kutztown allow full auto?
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June 28th, 2018, 02:25 PM #33
Re: Do any outdoor ranges around Kutztown allow full auto?
Karl Marx was a philosopher. His views on gun ownership are irrelevant. Governments/politicians are the ones that set laws. I would argue the amount of people control required for socialism to work will prevent citizen gun ownership en masse. Your penchant for full auto is funny. You also seem to acknowledge that strict socialism could bring dictatorships and death camps, also funny.
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June 28th, 2018, 06:09 PM #34Junior Member
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Re: Do any outdoor ranges around Kutztown allow full auto?
And what exactly does your particular brand of economics say we should do when we run out of enough natural resources to keep the present system going? What about when automation wipes out countless jobs? Or are you one of those who doesn't care because "I'll be dead by then"?
No they aren't. Marx was a rather extreme socialist and even he felt that people should be allowed to own guns. Just because there was one cancerous form of socialism [Leninism] that was very authoritarian and stripped it's people of many freedoms doesn't mean that every form of socialism has to take that path. By that logic, just because there was one poorly designed car model that's prone to explosion in an accident, the manufacture of all cars should be halted.
I mentioned the legalized ownership of new machine guns in some industrialized countries to prove that socialism can co-exist with guns. Even in the US, the ownership of new machine guns by ordinary civilians is illegal. A socialist economic system doesn't mean the end of gun ownership and a capitalist system doesn't mean the continuation of gun ownership. Strict capitalism can also lead to dictatorships and death camps, as was the case with Nazi Germany. I would make the argument that rampant economic inequality poses more of a threat to guns than the media or anti-gun politicians. With rampant economic inequality comes unstable communities, violence, drugs, despair, etc. When guns get used for a murder in these unstable environments, they get blamed and calls for gun control follow shortly.
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June 28th, 2018, 06:16 PM #35
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June 28th, 2018, 06:32 PM #36Grand Member
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June 28th, 2018, 06:44 PM #37
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Governmental provided sustenance (socialism) is what created ghettos and a mindset of hopelessness. They would be far better off if they learned how to take care of themselves, They won't though because socialists keep telling them the government should be providing for them. Socialism enslaves the people to the government tit.
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June 28th, 2018, 08:15 PM #39
Re: Do any outdoor ranges around Kutztown allow full auto?
I thought this thread was about commie machine guns with shoulder thingies that go up.
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July 1st, 2018, 10:11 AM #40Grand Member
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Re: Do any outdoor ranges around Kutztown allow full auto?
For F's sake. here we go again.
The reason the socialist/communist wakaroons agitate for the people keeping arms is to facilitate the coming revolution.
Even then, most of them want those arms stored in a common type armory (socialist abolition of private property, don't cha know) to be issued as needed when the "prolariate" rises up to take power from the Booze-wa...
The socialist/communist leadership needs to be hanged or shot wherever they might be found, and of course only with the proper hunting licenses and season tags.
How many times do we have to listen to this "but socialism works, they just didn't do it right last time" bullshit?Crusader's local #556 South Central Asia chapter
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