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    Default Phil Murphy wants to make it a lot more expensive to buy a gun in N.J.

    PRNJ at it again.


    By S.P. Sullivan

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    NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

    Gov. Phil Murphy is proposing to significantly hike fees for buying and selling firearms in New Jersey, a move that would raise the cost of gun permits and licenses for the first time in half a century and likely trigger a legal challenge from Second Amendment advocates.

    Murphy, a Democrat who has already signed half a dozen gun control bills in his first few months in office, has publicly called for raising such fees.

    "It's hard to believe it's actually cheaper to get a permit to purchase a handgun, which is $2, than it is to get a dog license in practically any town in our state," Murphy said at a June 13 bill signing.

    Draft legislation obtained by NJ Advance Media shows Murphy wants to raise fees and licenses far beyond the rate of inflation. The proposal, which Murphy's office shared with legislative leaders as part of the budget process, has not been formally introduced in the state Legislature.

    But the governor's public budget plan anticipates $1.4 million in additional revenue from the sale of firearms, and gun control activists continued to press the matter Thursday after learning the plan had not been picked up by Democratic leaders in the state Assembly and Senate.

    New Jersey's already strict gun control laws just got even tougher.

    Murphy and members of his own party in the Legislature have been wrangling over competing budget proposals ahead of a June 30 deadline.

    "The state has not raised these fees for 52 years while every other cost in the world has gone up significantly," said Bryan Miller, executive director of the group Heeding God's Call to End Gun Violence. "The governor's budget has these fees in it. The legislative leadership budget does not. Somehow, I don't think that's an accident."

    A spokesman for Senate Democratic leaders declined to comment.

    The plan would raise the cost for handgun purchase permits from $2 to $50; firearms identification cards from $5 to $100; handgun carry permits from $50 to $400; retail gun dealer licenses from $50 to $500; and wholesaler/manufacturer licenses from $150 to $1,500, among other hikes.

    Scott Bach, the director of the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, said the move was "intended to punish law-abiding gun owners for the acts of criminals and madmen and discourage the exercise of Second Amendment rights."

    "It also had the unintended consequence of denying that basic civil right to lower-income populations," he said.

    In some cases, the move would nearly double the cost of purchasing a firearm, some of which retail for less than $200.

    Bach, whose group has already filed suit targeting one of Murphy's new gun laws. -- a cap on magazine size -- in federal court, said the proposed fee hikes "won't survive a court challenge."

    Firearm permit prices vary significantly from state to state. For example, Murphy's proposal would bring New Jersey in line with the $100 it costs to get a firearm ID card in Massachusetts, which like the Garden State tightly regulates firearms.

    The plan would make the state's carry permit 20 times the cost of the $20 charged by Pennsylvania, which has among the loosest gun laws in the northeast.


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    Default Re: Phil Murphy wants to make it a lot more expensive to buy a gun in N.J.

    Raise the fee to exercise a right? Makes sense. Remember - gun control always disproportionately affects the poor. The proles shouldn't be able to defend themselves.

    At this point I'm happy NJ is being pushed even further. Incremental regulations won't wake them up but maybe, doubtfully, this will.

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    Default Re: Phil Murphy wants to make it a lot more expensive to buy a gun in N.J.

    The second amendment needs to be used against these tyrants.

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    Default Re: Phil Murphy wants to make it a lot more expensive to buy a gun in N.J.

    in federal court, said the proposed fee hikes "won't survive a court challenge.
    That's similar to what conservatives said about Obamacare prior to the supreme court ruling.

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    Default Re: Phil Murphy wants to make it a lot more expensive to buy a gun in N.J.

    "Second Amendment advocates"?
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    Default Re: Phil Murphy wants to make it a lot more expensive to buy a gun in N.J.

    Quote Originally Posted by :-) View Post
    "Second Amendment advocates"?
    They all left nj, all that is left are FUDDS & BB gun collectors

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    Default Re: Phil Murphy wants to make it a lot more expensive to buy a gun in N.J.

    "The plan would raise the cost for ... handgun carry permits from $50 to $400 ..."

    They don't issue them now, at fifty bucks a pop, to ordinary citizens. Raise the cost to four hundred dollars and nothing's going to change.

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    Default Re: Phil Murphy wants to make it a lot more expensive to buy a gun in N.J.

    At this point, if they charged $400 for a carry permit, and ACTUALLY issued them, they would run out of places to put the money income.

    But, thats too much logic for NJ.
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    Default Re: Phil Murphy wants to make it a lot more expensive to buy a gun in N.J.

    Quote Originally Posted by lts1ow View Post
    At this point, if they charged $400 for a carry permit, and ACTUALLY issued them, they would run out of places to put the money income.

    But, thats too much logic for NJ.
    But... Shootouts in the streets like every other state that's gone to shall issue.

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    Default Re: Phil Murphy wants to make it a lot more expensive to buy a gun in N.J.

    Quote Originally Posted by jthrelf View Post
    But... Shootouts in the streets like every other state that's gone to shall issue.
    But think of the tax money income!

    A true democrat conundrum
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