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June 18th, 2018, 09:32 AM #21Active Member
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Re: Where does NJ go from here. Mass shooting in the nanny state utopia
You got it. That is the politician point of view. You wouldn’t expect the .gov to admit that they are the ones to blame for a lot of this out of control societies issues, now would you?
They will preach to the sheeple how more gun control laws are the answer.....and the sheeple buy it!
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June 18th, 2018, 09:35 AM #22
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June 18th, 2018, 09:36 AM #23Super Member
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Re: Where does NJ go from here. Mass shooting in the nanny state utopia
Does ANYONE think being out on the streets ANYWHERE in Trenton at 2AM is a good idea?? If so, I guess I should make my living as a fortune teller, because my crystal ball said that stuff absolutely was guaranteed to happen!
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June 18th, 2018, 09:44 AM #24
Re: Where does NJ go from here. Mass shooting in the nanny state utopia
Why in the world would this thing be open at 2:45am in Trenton of all places, and why in the world is a 13yo not in bed at that time? I swear the idiots that organized this thing think they have this imaginary fantasy bubble around them that makes them immune from the real world. It's too bad for the people that live there that they are at the mercy of the politicians and the gang members.
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June 18th, 2018, 09:59 AM #25
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June 18th, 2018, 10:01 AM #26
Re: Where does NJ go from here. Mass shooting in the nanny state utopia
NJ bail reform was a Christie thing I believe.
If you can get the computer program to think you are very low risk, you get out without the massive bail required.
Either way, this will sadly fuel the anti gun furor and god knows where thats gonna go.Una Salus Victis Nullam Sperare Salutem
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June 18th, 2018, 10:13 AM #27
Re: Where does NJ go from here. Mass shooting in the nanny state utopia
Streaker is right, this is all those evil guns from lax PA making their way into Jersey... If Jersey wants stricter gun control then I recommend closing all the bridges coming from PA so only guns can come from Delaware and New York...
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June 18th, 2018, 10:52 AM #28Super Member
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Re: Where does NJ go from here. Mass shooting in the nanny state utopia
It's just as easy as buying illegal drugs today as it is for them to get an illegal gun, black market guns are already in circulation, there is no way to know exactly how many and where they all are. New gun laws won't change a thing and they know it. When something happens because of lack of action on their own part, it's always "We just need more gun laws."... It's sickening. When will people wake up to this nonsense? They need to do something about the gangs with illegal guns and drugs in our schools and on the streets and stop attacking law abiding citizens that have nothing to do with it. Actually accomplish something for a change. Then they can pat themselves on the back like they always do...
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June 18th, 2018, 11:36 AM #29
Re: Where does NJ go from here. Mass shooting in the nanny state utopia
“Teens” attending an “Art Festival”..........right.
I’d earn an insta-ban using the appropriate non-PC terminology.
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June 18th, 2018, 12:41 PM #30
Re: Where does NJ go from here. Mass shooting in the nanny state utopia
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NJ governor sees guns, not shooter's early prison release, as the problem
Prosecutor: NJ arts festival shooting was gang dispute
22 injured, one suspect dead after shots rang out during the overnight gathering in Trenton; Bryan Llenas reports on the investigation.
New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy responded to Sunday's deadly shooting at a Trenton arts festival by calling for new controls on guns.
But a suspect’s gang membership -- and early release from prison after Murphy took office -- may have been bigger factors in an incident that left one person dead and 22 wounded.
Meanwhile, Murphy -- a first-term Democrat in his first elected office -- supports shorter sentences for offenders and cuts in prisoner rehabilitation programs.
Officials have two people in custody after a shooting at an arts festival in New Jersey; Bryan Llenas shares latest details.
The suspect, identified as Tahaji Wells, 33, opened fire before 3 a.m. at the Art All Night festival in New Jersey's capital city, in what appears to have been a gang-related dispute. Wells was reportedly killed by police, and 17 of the 22 people injured reportedly suffered gunshot wounds.
A second suspect, identified as Amir Armstrong, 23, remained hospitalized in stable condition and was facing a weapons charge, while a third suspect was in critical condition.
Less than 24 hours after the gunfire, Murphy -- a former Goldman Sachs banker who served as President Barack Obama's ambassador to Germany -- began calling for gun control without addressing the other circumstances involved in the crime.
"It's yet another reminder of the senseless gun violence, even having signed six stringent gun laws last week," Murphy said at a news conference Sunday following a service at Trenton's Galilee Baptist Church.
We awoke to news of a mass shooting right here in Trenton.
Art All Night is a time when we all come together. We cannot let gun violence tear us apart.
These are not inappropriate times to talk about gun policy. These are the most important times to talk about gun policy.
During the service, he said he "and many others around this state are committed to ending this scourge of gun violence” and urged the Congress to take action on guns "as a national matter.”
On Twitter, the governor also said the immediate aftermath is the time to speak about possible gun control.
“These are not inappropriate times to talk about gun policy," he wrote. "These are the most important times to talk about gun policy.”
“These are not inappropriate times to talk about gun policy. These are the most important times to talk about gun policy.”
- New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy
But it turns out that Wells had been released from prison in February, despite receiving an 18-year state prison sentence in 2004 on an aggravated manslaughter conviction in the shooting death of a 22-year-old man, NJ.com reported.
The half-dozen new gun control laws tighten the state's already strict statutes. (Edwin J. Torres/New Jersey Governor's Office via AP)
June 13 , 2018: Gov. Phil Murphy, center, signs several gun safety bills at the Richard J. Hughes Justice Complex Atrium in Trenton, N.J.. The half-dozen new gun control laws tighten the state’s already strict statutes. (Associated Press)
And in 2010, while still in prison, Wells was sentenced to six additional years after pleading guilty to a second-degree racketeering charge. He reportedly helped a gang leader run the group from inside prison.
So despite two lengthy sentences that should have left Wells serving time behind bars into the 2020s, he was back on the streets and able to commit Sunday's crime.
Murphy has decried the sentencing and incarceration of people throughout his campaign and time in office as part of his criminal justice reform agenda, which includes a review of sentencing laws in the state.
The governor’s efforts weren’t just promises, as earlier this year he resurrected the Criminal Sentencing and Disposition Commission created in 2009, which never actually held any meetings due to former state Gov. Chris Christie’s reluctance to appoint any members.
“We can and must do better,” Murphy said in a statement announcing the restart of the commission. “A Criminal Sentencing and Disposition Commission can undertake the important review of our sentencing laws and recommend reforms necessary to ensure a stronger, fairer and more just state.”
Another key promise of Murphy was to “expand re-entry services, so that the people coming out of prison have the support they need to return to productive lives” – a measure that should have supposedly prevented Wells’ shooting spree.
Yet, Murphy slashed all the money from a prisoner reentry program that was created by his fellow Democratic Party colleagues, NJ.com reported. The program provided training and helped former prisoners to find jobs and claimed it reduced recidivism rates.Ecclesiastes 10:2 ...........
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