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    Default Recent Lies About 'Gun Control'

    I have one small thing to ask of the gun-prohibitionists. Please stop lying to us. For extra credit, I’d like the rights-restrictors to stop lying to themselves as well. Even that may be too much to ask. If the gun control advocates must lie, then please make up some creative propaganda because the old lies are wearing thin. Here are some obvious ones, and see if you agree.
    The police will take care of us.

    The courts have ruled time and again that the police have no duty to protect us. The police are not liable for our protection even if you called the police and asked for help before you were attacked. The police collect evidence of a crime. If a criminal is active long enough, then eventually the police might catch him. Whether a jury will convict the criminal, whether a judge will sentence him and he will actually serve his sentence, is another question entirely. The police might, or might not, stop a crime committed right in front of them.

    Let’s look at the problem from another perspective. Please conduct this experiment yourself. I couldn’t make a cell phone call while my wife was trying to tickle me, and I am only slightly ticklish. I couldn’t call the police even though I am considerably larger and stronger than my wife.

    Criminals are far more brutal. I certainly couldn’t make a 911 call while I was being beaten, raped, stabbed, or shot.. and I don’t want you to try this for yourself. We can try and call the police once the attack is over if we still have our cell phones and our wits. The average police response time in the US is twelve and a half minutes.

    Robberies are over in seconds. The police can’t take care of us when danger strikes.

    We can stop criminals from getting guns.

    Gun prohibition doesn’t work. We’ve tried prohibition before. We made alcohol illegal and criminals sold alcohol. Drugs are illegal today, and selling illegal drugs is a 100 billion dollar industry in the US. Drug gangs also smuggle millions of illegal immigrants into the US, so importing a small package containing firearms is trivial.

    In bleeding Chicago, fully 98 out of 100 criminals obtained their guns illegally. The street price for an illegal gun is less than the price to buy a new gun legally at a gun shop. An honest person needs three days to get a handgun in Illinois due to mandatory waiting periods. On the other hand, a criminal gets a fresh gun in a few hours, and all the background checks and waiting periods in the world won’t stop him.

    The situation is worse in countries that outlawed civilian firearms. Criminals break gun laws just as they break other laws.

    This is only common sense gun safety legislation. We’re not out to take your guns.

    We’ve had gubernatorial candidates who said they would issue emergency decrees and act unilaterally. By executive action they would declare an emergency and confiscate guns as assault weapons. We’ve had law enforcement officers say they would kill gun owners who resisted confiscation. These elected officials said they would wage war on peaceful firearms owners.

    Let’s get to the real heart of the argument. Firearms are dangerous tools. Guns are also extremely useful. Guns are used about 200 times in self-defense for each time a firearm is used in a homicide. If we are safer with them than without them, then why do rights-restrictors and some politicians want to disarm peaceful citizens?

    Gun owners are criminals who haven’t committed a crime yet.

    Many people are frightened by any kind of violence. These individuals don’t discriminate between the attacker and the defender, between the wolf and the sheepdog. This attitude of “zero tolerance” leaves all of us as helpless victims in the face of violent criminals. Disarming the victim doesn’t protect anyone.

    Japan society is often held up as a model of non-violence. There is a segment of society here in the US that is as peaceful and non-violent as the disarmed Japanese. That segment is the licensed concealed carry holders of United States. I’ll say that again. Civilians who received their license to carry concealed are as peaceful as any segment of society anywhere. That segment of US society is even more law abiding than the police. In addition, armed America actually reduces crime by refusing to be an easy victim, yet the rights-restrictors want them disarmed.

    Gun control isn’t about controlling violence. It is about controlling us. Anti-gun spokesmen have armed bodyguards. They want us disarmed and for them to have guns..and I wish they’d stop lying about it.

    http://jpfo.org/articles-2018/lies-a...un-control.htm
    MikeP - Christian, Patriot, Straight, White, Male, Conservative, Gun Owner

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    Default Re: Recent Lies About 'Gun Control'

    All the words in the world will not stop an emotion driven agenda. The driving force behind that agenda is control and money. More control takes money. A "surveillance state" in America would generate billions of dollars in revenue (equipment and all the jobs & taxes to run & maintain it).

    We used to talk of the "military industrial complex". Well, the security complex is the new thing. A "Secure America", or "Safe America" is the wet dream of those who stand to make boatloads of money from fear and emotions. The War On Terror is a bust, the War On Drugs is old hat. The whole Middle East/Syria/Iran thing makes most people roll their eyes in confusion. So clamping down on emotional issues here at home is a real easy money machine.

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    Default Re: Recent Lies About 'Gun Control'

    Cliff note: how does disarming me make you safer?

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    Default Re: Recent Lies About 'Gun Control'

    It is the Liberal agenda that drives the fake news and fuels the flames of the mentally ill left.

    Gun owners have allowed some give, but we rarely got any take.

    The true agenda has been admitted to.. the fact the left wants the 2nd Amendment revoked. They want laws like England, that are working out sooooooo well

    It is rare one of the Left will actually listen to a discussion and look at facts.. They spew CNN and Soros bullshit and when you confront them with facts, stories, agenda.. they will call you names, scream and yell etc.

    It is time we say "No MORE" leave the 2nd Amendment alone and repeal bullshit like NY S.A.F.E Act, NJ laws that restrict law abiding citizens, IL laws.. etc But we have to stop the infighting and get on common ground
    Retired US Army
    NRA Life Member, GOA, USCCA
    "Artificial intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity"

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