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June 17th, 2018, 06:07 PM #41
Re: What would/ should you do after pulling your gun on someone?
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June 18th, 2018, 12:06 AM #43Grand Member
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Re: What would/ should you do after pulling your gun on someone?
I was trained never to point a firearm at something without firing.
Here is the rule...
RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY
I'm amazed that you're having trouble understanding this simple rule. Cooper was pretty damn clear - if you're not going to shoot it do not cover it with the muzzle of your firearm. Why does that bother you and some others here?
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June 18th, 2018, 12:11 AM #44Grand Member
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Re: What would/ should you do after pulling your gun on someone?
By all means, point guns at other people. Don't worry about being startled or while in stress doing something you didn't intend to do. Ignore generations of experience in high stress conditions. Even if you keep your finger off of the trigger in practice it'll be there when you're under stress. People do the damndest things under stress.
Show of hands. Who practices after exercising or spinning around to simulate a head punch? I do. My accuracy goes to shit. I have to dig deeper. Things get murky for me when I'm heavily stressed.
I know that Port of Arms keeps me from blasting someone by mistake. Port arms is a great way to balance out being armed with being prudently armed.
I'll take my chances doing Port Arms. That's what old school police did when covering suspects. They could come out of it fast.
Dumb? Time will tell.Last edited by GeneCC; June 18th, 2018 at 12:41 AM.
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June 18th, 2018, 12:40 AM #45Grand Member
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Re: What would/ should you do after pulling your gun on someone?
Phil,
I have read that 95 percent of all criminal cases result in Plea Bargains. This is in part because people cannot afford the legal bills for a full blown case.
My sources tell me that a Coroner's Inquest is about $10,000 in lawyer fees. A murder trial? Around $100,000 to $300,000. Does this agree with your experience?
What's the freight on a reckless endangerment charge? How about an AD that hits a would be assailant or bystander?
Should we use firearms in self defense? I believe so.
Should we use firearms in self defense prudently? Definitely.
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June 18th, 2018, 04:48 AM #46
Re: What would/ should you do after pulling your gun on someone?
Last edited by Justin///M; June 18th, 2018 at 05:41 AM.
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June 18th, 2018, 05:23 AM #47
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June 18th, 2018, 05:37 AM #48
Re: What would/ should you do after pulling your gun on someone?
A point made by this discussion of range safety rules.
"There is no “violation” of range safety rules when pointing a weapon at a suspect when the situation is sufficiently threatening. Rule #2 states: “Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.” It says, “…willing to destroy,” not going to destroy. This is a paper target rule when taken literally."
http://blog.cuttingedgetraining.org/...eal-World.aspxLife has a melody. Not great, not terrible.
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June 18th, 2018, 09:28 AM #49
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June 18th, 2018, 09:35 AM #50
Re: What would/ should you do after pulling your gun on someone?
Based on reading and training.
If I were to unholster and point my firearm at a human.. and they were to run before I fired..
I would check my 360 to ensure I am safe
I would call 911 and give my location and description and state "I had to draw my firearm due to threat of life"
I would call a pro 2nd Amendment lawyer (have a couple on speed dial including Phil)
I would follow the directions of the arriving police and invoke my right to remain silent until in the presence of my attorney.. basically hand them my USCCA incident card
possibly provide a description of the perp depending on my recollection, amount of adrenaline, how responding LEO behave, and advice of the attorney
I would handle it almost identically as a self-defense shootingRetired US Army
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