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    Default Gun Owner Liability Insurance SB 1182

    Another one to oppose. $100,000 liability insurance required.

    Regular Session 2017-2018
    Senate Bill 1182

    Short Title: An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous articles, providing for liability insurance for firearms.

    Prime Sponsor: Senator FARNESE

    Last Action: Referred to JUDICIARY, May 31, 2018 [Senate]

    Memo: Firearm Insurance Coverage
    for details and text see: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=1182


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    Default Re: Gun Owner Liability Insurance SB 1182

    Quote Originally Posted by Brick View Post
    Another one to oppose. $100,000 liability insurance required.



    for details and text see: http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=1182
    Look at the "poll tax" cases for why this is unconstitutional.
    Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
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    Default Re: Gun Owner Liability Insurance SB 1182

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    Look at the "poll tax" cases for why this is unconstitutional.
    I hate to disagree with you, but if PA's courts are capable of claiming that the PSP "Gun Sales Database" is not a registry because it doesn't contain all guns, they're capable of claiming this is not a tax since payment is made to a "private entity" to purchase the insurance.


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    Default Re: Gun Owner Liability Insurance SB 1182

    No way. Make non gun owners purchase insurance just like I need to purchase uninsured motorist coverage. My insurance IS my gun.

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    Default Re: Gun Owner Liability Insurance SB 1182

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    $1000 for every leftist to vote
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    Default Re: Gun Owner Liability Insurance SB 1182

    Quote Originally Posted by middlefinger View Post
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    $1000 for every leftist to vote
    Yes and an extra 1000 for illegal beaners!

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    Default Re: Gun Owner Liability Insurance SB 1182

    Quote Originally Posted by Brick View Post
    I hate to disagree with you, but if PA's courts are capable of claiming that the PSP "Gun Sales Database" is not a registry because it doesn't contain all guns, they're capable of claiming this is not a tax since payment is made to a "private entity" to purchase the insurance.
    They called it a "sales registry".

    I wonder how they'd feel if the PA State police could register all patient claims from Planned Parenthood or Women's Services? "We're not registering your abortions, M'am, just your purchases of services from these providers". I wonder if the penumbra of privacy could cover that transaction?

    I wonder if we could scare some of these Elitists by appealing to legal precedent? Nah... they only think one move ahead.

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    Default Re: Gun Owner Liability Insurance SB 1182

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    Look at the "poll tax" cases for why this is unconstitutional.
    I wonder if the sophists who violate USSC precedent with Miller vs US by supporting a ban on "weapons of war" couldn't weasel their way around this one? They're not logical thinkers but they're good narrative jugglers.

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    Default Re: Gun Owner Liability Insurance SB 1182

    These characters could just limit the insurance requirements to holders of CCWs. Kind of like how they currently observe our auto insurance with respect to our automobile registries.

    Probably would just encourage people not to bother to get a CCW or get the PA Legislature to support Constitutional Carry. I'm not sure that they want that to happen.

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    Default Re: Gun Owner Liability Insurance SB 1182

    The idiots behind this legislation don't care a lick about the insurance, it's just one more step down the slippery slope to full registration and confiscation.

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