Well written and informative article, "Why We Are Losing the Fight..."

**PHL9mm** · May 23rd, 2018, 03:46 PM

In case some haven't read this I found it very interesting:

Note: These remarks were given at the Second Amendment Town Hall on Strategy on April 15, 2018 in Batavia, New York.

Thank you for coming today Ladies and Gentlemen.

I am a self-employed lawyer and publisher and I owe no political favors to anyone. I am not running for office. I am running from office. So, I am able to say what I really think, and I am going to do that today. Many will strongly disagree with some of the things I will say today but it’s a time for truth after so many years of lies, half-truths and using language to confuse and deceive, not communicate the truth. Our politics are dominated by dishonesty and the failure to come to grips with the real issues and that has to stop.

We are losing the fight for the Second Amendment. We are losing it in the courts. We are losing it in the legislatures. We are losing it in the media, in the schools and with young people. The approach we have been using to protect the Second Amendment for many years has failed, is failing and will continue to fail. That approach has basically focused on lobbying, elections, voting and using the litigation process without any serious attempt to change the philosophical or ideological bent of the country or to change the ideological trajectory of the country to the left which in the last five years has been accelerating, and without any attempt to change the basic progressive mindset which has dominated American politics for many decades. The tactics we have used are archaic, dated, spent, don’t work and there has been no attempt to use bold new innovative tactics and unless that changes, we are going to lose this fight.

Whole article HERE

**buckengr** · May 23rd, 2018, 04:49 PM

This is excellent. Thanks for sharing.

Rep denied.

**bogey1** · May 23rd, 2018, 05:55 PM

Will the government protect you when riots break out? I don't want them too.

Does anyone want to be disarmed while the lunatic left builds a de facto one-party state that will inevitably move towards the creation of a totalitarian state?
I'll never be disarmed and neither should you.

**RenoV8** · May 23rd, 2018, 10:17 PM

I read that article awhile ago and thought then as I do now...talk is cheap. His points may be correct, but we are not in the talking mood, nor will be in the near future. When you have one group looking to disarm another, all the while diminishing the words our forefathers left us, with the understanding, there will be those who try to pervert the Constitution...we are at that crossroads. One party's dominance in the institutions of this country does not give it the right to force those who do not share the same values, to do the same. It is counter to what we as a country was founded upon. Its time we stand for what we believe in, or kneel before those who do.

The left has let the power they had rot them to the core...hence the results we see now as a result of losing the election. Unbridled arrogance will bring them down.

**PHL9mm** · May 24th, 2018, 08:12 AM

Yeah, I see your point. The left does all the talking while not living in reality it seems and it's dangerous as hell. I like that people who appreciate and value the constitution, bill of rights and the federalist papers are getting louder. This article is a good way to get the communist left's sea of bullshit into perspective.

**jthrelf** · May 24th, 2018, 08:13 AM

Good read.

**nfafan** · May 28th, 2018, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by PHL9mm

Yeah, I see your point. The left does all the talking while not living in reality it seems and it's dangerous as hell. I like that people who appreciate and value the constitution, bill of rights and the federalist papers are getting louder. This article is a good way to get the communist left's sea of bullshit into perspective.

That said; will John Q Public back away from the TV long enough to read and comprehend?

**longcall911** · May 29th, 2018, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by RenoV8

I read that article awhile ago and thought then as I do now...talk is cheap. His points may be correct, but we are not in the talking mood, nor will be in the near future. When you have one group looking to disarm another, all the while diminishing the words our forefathers left us, with the understanding, there will be those who try to pervert the Constitution...we are at that crossroads. One party's dominance in the institutions of this country does not give it the right to force those who do not share the same values, to do the same. It is counter to what we as a country was founded upon. Its time we stand for what we believe in, or kneel before those who do.

The left has let the power they had rot them to the core...hence the results we see now as a result of losing the election. Unbridled arrogance will bring them down.

Agreed. The author acts as though we just need to educate the masses. Oh really, and how do you do that exactly? Many of us have been fighting this fight for a long time. Get out there and you learn quickly that you can only convince those who are open to it. So you work on them, but the anti-gun people can't be convinced. And, they vote. So, we have to beat them at the polls which includes judges. And since we won't win every election we must be organized and stop bad legislation.

The battle is to be fought on many fronts. Our single biggest problem is the lack of people on our side who are truly willing to commit time and money to fighting.

**mikelets456** · May 29th, 2018, 09:41 AM

We're fighting a media that is in bed with colleges that's in bed with Hollywood that's in bed with politicians that want total control----why would they support our right to be free when their innate desire is power and control? 1775 is not much different than now regarding those in power to remove "it" from those derived. It's a slow process, but WE need to continue to "pound the streets" (online sites) with the truth. Know your facts. Take people to the range, point out history and the ineptness of our government--- especially our government recently. Point out their hypocrisy and expose their lies. This fight will never end and neither will our desire to be free. Remember all of our "stuff" is worthless if we don't make the sacrifice to protect freedom. Our worst enemy is not the enemy it's our complacency in our desire to be left alone. Even though that is the ultimate goal of freedom,however doing nothing is the ultimate defeater of freedom.

**GeneCC** · June 3rd, 2018, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by PHL9mm

We are losing the fight for the Second Amendment. We are losing it in the courts. We are losing it in the legislatures. We are losing it in the media, in the schools and with young people. The approach we have been using to protect the Second Amendment for many years has failed, is failing and will continue to fail. That approach has basically focused on lobbying, elections, voting and using the litigation process without any serious attempt to change the philosophical or ideological bent of the country or to change the ideological trajectory of the country to the left which in the last five years has been accelerating, and without any attempt to change the basic progressive mindset which has dominated American politics for many decades. The tactics we have used are archaic, dated, spent, don’t work and there has been no attempt to use bold new innovative tactics and unless that changes, we are going to lose this fight.

Constitutional carry didn't exist in the US, except for Vermont. How many States today have Constitutional Carry?

The Feinstein ban required a sunset to get it past the Senate. Bill Clinton had to bribe Democrats in the House. Enough lost the election to hand the Congress over. There was a repeal of the ban in the late 1990s, the GOP could not break the Filibuster and douchebag Bubba threatened to veto it.

There are twenty million modern sporting rifles in private hands. Thousands more are being made each month. Home made AR15s continue to proliferate, their numbers unknown. The Connecticut and New York bans got under twenty percent registry compliance. Nobody so far is going House to House to collect the other eighty percent.

The Astroturf gun rallies since Parkland have required massive amounts of money from Bloomberg and organizing support from the NEA. Two weak willed Republicans caved, one in Vermont and the other in Florida. We still don't know how that is going to affect those two treacherous bastards.

I think this guy is speaking for New Yorkers. The only reason that the SAFE act got passed is because Andrew Cuomo abused the emergency legislation clause to ram a Bloomberg written "law" through the Legislature. Cuomo was the architect of the S&W extortion while he was Bill Clinton's staffer. He's an elitist shitbag.

I agree that the Courts are hopeless. It's not their job to pass law.

If we were losing the fight there would be no Constitutional carry. We would have May Issue permits and awful classes. We would have massive insurance requirements just to own a firearm. Making your own AR15 would be a felony, like growing weed.

The gun control lobby is smart in getting laws passed. They don't have the guts to go all the way. The squishy soft suburbanites who might want a "ban" are not going to support people being machine gunned in their living rooms by confiscation squads. They're not going to tolerate gun pushers and clandestine ammunition dealers having gun battles over sales turf. I'm not even sure that the rank and file in the gun control lobby have those kinds of guts but the voters? No way.

We have suffered the war on drugs for years. Nobody cares about drug dealers. Gun owners are Mr and/or Mrs. Anyone.

Mike Bloomberg thinks he's going to heaven, which means he thinks he's doing God's work. If God didn't want us to have firearms he wouldn't have given us trigger fingers.