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    Were AR-15s Used in Every Major Mass Shooting in the United States After Aurora?
    An attempt to link the rifle to several major mass attacks circulated widely online in the hours following a school shooting in Texas.
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    AR-15 rifles were used to commit every major mass shooting in the United States since a 2012 attack in an Aurora, Colorado movie theater.

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    In the hours after a mass shooting at a high school in Santa Fe, Texas killed at least ten people on the morning of 18 May 2018, attempts to draw a common cause between many of the major mass shootings in the United States appeared on social media and were quickly and widely spread.

    The viral post, which was copied and pasted as well as shared and retweeted, read as follows:

    Aurora: AR-15
    Orlando: AR-15
    Parkland: AR-15
    Las Vegas: AR-15
    Sandy Hook: AR-15
    Texas Church: AR-15
    San Bernardino: AR-15
    Waffle House: AR-15
    Santa Fe High School: AR-15

    The only ones who don’t see where the problem is are Republicans.

    But while the statement is accurate for the most part, the weapon most commonly associated with such massacres was reportedly not used in Santa Fe.

    In a press conference following the 18 May 2018 shooting Gov. Greg Abbott refuted early reports saying that the suspect, 17-year-old Dimitrios Pagourtzis, used an AR-15 rifle. Instead, Abbot said, the suspect used a shotgun and a .38-caliber revolver to carry out the attack, killing 10 people and injuring 10 more.

    However, the post is correct in that the rifle has been used in several widely-covered mass shootings in the U.S. since 2012. Specifically, an AR-15 or a modified version of one was used to commit the attacks in Aurora, Colorado (June 2012); Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut (December 2012); San Bernardino, California (December 2015); First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas (November 2017); and Parkland, Florida in February 2018.

    Regarding the June 2016 attack at Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, authorities revised their initial description of one of the weapons used. After initially describing it as an “AR-15-type assault rifle,” police said it was a different type of firearm, the Sig Sauer MCX.

    While the National Rifle Association has reportedly promoted the AR-15 as “America’s rifle,” calls for it to be banned have been a reocurring phenomenon since the Sandy Hook attack, in which 28 people were killed, most of them children. They increased again following the Parkland shooting, with several students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, where it occurred, becoming public advocates for tighter laws concerning firearm sales.

    The suspect in the May 2018 shooting has been charged with capital murder. He is being held without bond.

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    Published:18 May 2018



















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    It also depends on how you define "mass shooting". This article is just looking at the highest-profile shootings, but the liberals definition of "mass shooting " includes every gang shooting with three victims. Most of those aren't committed with AR-15s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scruff View Post
    It also depends on how you define "mass shooting". This article is just looking at the highest-profile shootings, but the liberals definition of "mass shooting " includes every gang shooting with three victims. Most of those aren't committed with AR-15s.
    Such facts don't matter to anti-gunners. In 1989, they banned sales of "ban-config" HK-91s and FAL variants because we all knew that cocaine street-bangers walked around with exactly such rifles in their wastebands...
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    Where is Snopes located? Maybe we can give them a demonstration.
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    Snopes is a Soros funded propaganda machine.
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    Default Re: "Fact checker" lies

    Personally, I wouldn't bother getting all worked up over these claims...We already know EVERYTHING we need to know. There isn't anything new to be learned, its just a rehashing of all the old mixed in with a new twist or some spin.

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    I read an article which basically fact checked snopes and they confirmed snopes is not accurate. .....shocking.
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    That's what the leftist do, they start some site "snopes" to tell everyone what is and is not true.
    The start some organization "southern poverty law center" to tell everyone what is and is not a hate group.
    They get together and give each other awards to tell everyone who is worthy of praise.
    It's all the news that fit to make up.
    The latest from the "Ministry of Truth"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonBiase View Post
    That's what the leftist do, they start some site "snopes" to tell everyone what is and is not true.
    The start some organization "southern poverty law center" to tell everyone what is and is not a hate group.
    They get together and give each other awards to tell everyone who is worthy of praise.
    It's all the news that fit to make up.
    The latest from the "Ministry of Truth"
    Both SNOPES and the SPLC had a time when they were quite legitimate. In the 1960s-70s, the SPLC was actually useful for getting an educated guess as to whether an organization was a 'hate' group. Ditto back in the 1990s SNOPES was mostly reliable. Both have gone to leftist hell in the last 10 years more or less.

    It is only because they once were good people still use them as resources.
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    I still remember my undergradute research class: If you want an accurate answer, ask an accurate question.

    In the logical world, "mostly true" is illogical. The answer to the question should be untrue, unless the liberal is willing to refine the question......but that would take the non-factual emotional charge out of it.

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