made a mistake on LTCF app/interview(Philadelphia pa)

**mpan72** · May 21st, 2018, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by tradedate

I thought Philadelphia's application process autonomy was because they are also considered to be their own county. Not so much being a city of the first class. Am I wrong about that?

They do not have autonomy. That is just plain not true. They do have some differences in exercising your right. The application process is supposed to be the same. They require some things that the law does not allow for, that is true for other counties as well. They are a county just the same as any other county, the only difference is they have no other cities in their county.

**SevenMilePete** · May 21st, 2018, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by john9001

This brings up more questions, such as "why do you need a address to drive a car"? Where you live has nothing to do with the ability to drive a car.

Because you can't get a PA. drivers license if you aren't a resident? And common proof that you are a resident is a drivers license.
That's why they take away your old license when you moveto a new state.

**SevenMilePete** · May 21st, 2018, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by mpan72

They do not have autonomy. That is just plain not true. They do have some differences in exercising your right. The application process is supposed to be the same. They require some things that the law does not allow for, that is true for other counties as well. They are a county just the same as any other county, the only difference is they have no other cities in their county.

Are there any counties that ask for previous residences? That's almost like applying for a security clearance.

**cugino** · May 21st, 2018, 09:59 PM

Philadelphia got sued in a class action lawsuit. Before this suit Phila county appliers had to provide references along with the soc sec numbers of references https://blog.princelaw.com/.../settl...suit-regarding... and if I'm not mistaken on this when you were denied the LTCF and appealed the appeal info became public on a website belonging to the city court system. the lawsuit is very searchable...this is a blog post that is a great read. https://princelaw.files.wordpress.co...nt-redacted.pd...

If I got it right after reading and trying to understand all that the suit settled on they are not allowed to run that site anymore or allow applicants personal info to become public record, also they are not allowed to ask for references to that degree anymore.

Ill keep repeating myself till I goto the grave, that they forced me to reveal my so sec number when it clearly states that i did not have to. Something that was horrifying for me cause I had my soc sec number used in the past fraudulently.

Thanks for everyones great replies and input on this

God Bless Y'all

**Carson** · May 21st, 2018, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by john9001

This brings up more questions, such as "why do you need a address to drive a car"? Where you live has nothing to do with the ability to drive a car.

They need an address to send your Traffic citations and ez pass violations.

**Carson** · May 21st, 2018, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by SevenMilePete

Are there any counties that ask for previous residences? That's almost like applying for a security clearance.

Wait till you guys see the requirements to get a “Real ID” PA DL.

Deadline extended until 10/2018, but the commonwealth won’t have the DL in place until 2019.

**cugino** · May 22nd, 2018, 02:41 AM

the website was removed/shut down where the public info was being displayed after appeals were filed it was shut down due to a class action lawsuit taken against the city gun permit unit.

**Mongo85** · May 22nd, 2018, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Carson

Wait till you guys see the requirements to get a “Real ID” PA DL.

Deadline extended until 10/2018, but the commonwealth won’t have the DL in place until 2019.

If it’s anything like what was involved with renewing my CDL, everyone’s gonna have fun with that...

**JenniferG** · May 22nd, 2018, 11:56 AM

The 2nd amendment is a conditional right in Philadelphia. You must meet their conditions in order to exercise your rights. That's they way the founders meant it to be, having a government official approve of your rights.

**Carson** · May 22nd, 2018, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by JenniferG

The 2nd amendment is a conditional right in Philadelphia. You must meet their conditions in order to exercise your rights. That's they way the founders meant it to be, having a government official approve of your rights.

I approve of this post.