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    Default Re: Machine gun question. M16 related.

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    Default Re: Machine gun question. M16 related.

    The general rule is that an MG receiver is an MG, as is any part or parts kits designed to make a semi into an MG. So an M16 receiver with the sear hole is an MG and must be registered; so is a drop-in auto sear, since that sear could be put in any AR-15 (unless designed against it, like some Colts) and make that AR fully automatic.

    As for the barrel length, "machinegun" includes all lesser NFA categories, so you can make it an SBR or a pistol or a rifle and back again.

    However, you CANNOT bolt a pistol underneath an M-16 without registering that pistol as an SBR, because it will be using the buttstock of the rifle, and it's a separate firearm.

    There are other rules. Many of them. Some of them contradict each other. Few of them make sense as "crime-fighting" laws.
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    Default Re: Machine gun question. M16 related.

    Are you going to have it in time for the Group shoot?
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    Default Re: Machine gun question. M16 related.

    Quote Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
    Are you going to have it in time for the Group shoot?
    Hahaha no. I'm at 9+ months for one stamp, so unless by some miracle the stamp gets here in record time, it'll be next year.
    Last edited by Justin///M; May 7th, 2018 at 08:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by :-) View Post
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    Default Re: Machine gun question. M16 related.

    I shot one full auto before, it's amazing...
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    Default Re: Machine gun question. M16 related.

    Quote Originally Posted by GunLawyer001 View Post
    The general rule is that an MG receiver is an MG, as is any part or parts kits designed to make a semi into an MG. So an M16 receiver with the sear hole is an MG and must be registered; so is a drop-in auto sear, since that sear could be put in any AR-15 (unless designed against it, like some Colts) and make that AR fully automatic....

    There are other rules. Many of them. Some of them contradict each other. Few of them make sense as "crime-fighting" laws.
    Yes, the actual 3rd hole receiver or drop in auto sear require a stamp, but I was under the impression it's completely legal to have the extended disconnector, trigger with rear notch, 3 position safety switch, and spurred hammer, without a tax stamp in an AR15 platform, just as many of us use stock full auto bolt carriers (although as you've noted before, at what point does the BATF toss you in the pokey for constructive possession in this day and age)?

    Here's a good place for our new MG owner to shop for parts!

    https://www.ftfindustries.com/category/M16FA.html
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    Default Re: Machine gun question. M16 related.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinHEMI View Post
    Hahaha no. I'm at 9+ months for one stamp, so unless by some miracle the stamp gets here in record time, it'll be next year.
    I sent a form 4 in March 31st 2018 for a MG, my dealer received a correction request from the NFA examinator last week.. I'm sure I'm still in for a long wait but nice to see an examinator is already looking it over..

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    Default Re: Machine gun question. M16 related.

    If you were kicked back for corrections it won’t be much longer.

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    Default Re: Machine gun question. M16 related.

    Quote Originally Posted by IUOE_Mike View Post
    I sent a form 4 in March 31st 2018 for a MG, my dealer received a correction request from the NFA examinator last week.. I'm sure I'm still in for a long wait but nice to see an examinator is already looking it over..
    My guy is concerned with a correction request too, since we're transferring only an M16 receiver, didn't put anything in for barrel length and overall.
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