Meanwhile in Austrailia

[internet troll]

Seriously, you can't make this up. 4 home invaders ambush this guy and he gets charged.


Man who shot an intruder after he was ambushed by four home invaders faces court after HE was charged over the confrontation
37-year-old man released on bail after pleading guilty to shooting home invader
Oliver Garovsky shot one of four home intruders in northwest Melbourne house
Struggle broke out between Garovsky and intruders which led to gun going off


A Melbourne man has been released on bail after pleading guilty to shooting a home invader in the stomach.

Four people broke into Oliver Garovsky's residence in the northwest Melbourne suburb of Delahey in October last year, while his parents were also at the residence.

As the 37-year-old tried to fight them off a gun discharged during the struggle and one of the intruders was wounded.

The intruder was subsequently taken to hospital in a critical condition, while a 31-year-old woman and a 34-year-old man were arrested.

The fourth intruder was not arrested at the time and sparked a police manhunt.

Mr Garovsky pleaded guilty to one count of reckless conduct endangering life and one count of possession a prohibited weapon.


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[mmi]

self defense is no longer a murder defense in these places . you need a backhoe to go with your gun .

[Parrisk]

Coming to a state near you soon

[JenniferG]

Virginia is for Lovers and Australia is for losers.

[Dave_n]

Melbourne is in the State of Victoria which is roughly equivalent to PRNJ in terms of its attitude. May have something to do with the Tasmanian episode that started the fun and games in OZ. Dave_n

[FJRMarty]

Lots of stupid stuff in Australia.
Australian friend of mine visiting for a week told me of a gun nut friend of his who paid $18,000AUD a "...50 caliber rifle." I asked if it was a Savage 110 and he said he thought it was. His friend was allowed to shoot it with a local cop in attendance and chained (Aussie word is 'tethered') to the shooting bench. Then the police unlocked and returned the rifle to its locker at the police station. He texted his friend to verify it was a 110, and when his friend found he was texting to America he was excited to tell that the local cop had allowed him once to shoot it untethered!

[TaePo]

Laws requiring one to not fight back, even at risk to one's own life or serious injury makes about as much sense as a law requiring people to fight back at all times and at all costs, no matter what. I mean, we even recognize conscientious objectors in times of war. IIRC isn't there something in the Constitution or was it the Federalist/Anti-Federalist writings? I do know it goes back further than WWII.

Lay down and die laws go against primal, natural instinct. If I throw something at you as hard as I can, you are not legally allowed to flinch, duck, intercept/catch it. Poppycock!

[wanneroo]

Depends on the state in Australia in regards to the self defense laws, but for the most part you can't defend yourself from bodily injury and certainly cannot defend your property with any sort of weapon or physical force.

I believe it's why people disappear so much in Australia, especially scumbags. Even rural Australia within a few hours of the major cities is much more sparse than here, so I believe there is a lot of shoot and shovel that goes on in rural Australia.

One issue in the Australia is the police have a lot more political power than the police here in the USA. The public allows the police to control and dominate the debate on guns and cars, hence the very restrictive and outrageous rules on guns and driving in Australia.

[03SVTCobra]

‘It’s just horrifying’: Seven killed in Australia’s deadliest mass shooting in 22 years
An Australian community is reeling from the deadliest mass shooting the country has seen in more than 20 years, after seven people, including four children, were discovered dead on a rural property near Margaret River.

Authorities in Western Australia responded early Friday morning to a home in Osmington, not far from Perth, where the four children and three adults were found dead from gunshot wounds, according to local news reports.

The mass shooting has rattled Australia, where lawmakers passed some of the world's most restrictive gun-control laws after a 1996 massacre in Tasmania.

“'Shocking' is about the only word,” resident Felicity Haynes told 9 News Australia. “I just feel sick to the stomach. That couldn't happen here.”

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Western Australia police commissioner Chris Dawson said at a news conference that officers responded to the scene about 5:15 a.m. and discovered the seven bodies; two adults were outside, and five other victims were inside the home in Osmington, a small town nestled in Western Australia's South West.

Police said two firearms were also found at the scene.

Although police said that they are not searching for a suspect, they would not confirm reports that the incident was likely a murder-suicide. Dawson said he could describe it only as a “horrific incident.”

“This devastating tragedy will no doubt have a lasting impact on the families concerned, the whole community and, in particular, the local communities in our South West,” he told reporters.

Authorities have not publicly identified the deceased, but a family friend told the Australian Broadcasting Corp. that the seven victims were Peter and Cynda Miles, their daughter, Katrina, and Katrina's four children.

“It's just horrifying, just horrifying,” Haynes, a family friend, told 9 News Australia, explaining that she heard three gunshots — and then two more — at about 4 a.m., but did not think much about it.

“They were good people. It's not fair. It's not fair,” she said.

The deadly incident was Australia's worst mass shooting since the Port Arthur massacre in 1996, when a gunman opened fire in a cafe in Tasmania and then hunted down more victims in his vehicle, killing 35 and injuring many others.

As The Washington Post reported, soon after the 1996 incident, John Howard, who was elected as Australia's prime minister that year, enacted strict gun control legislation. Known as the 1996 National Firearms Agreement (NFA), the law banned the possession, manufacture and sale of all semiautomatic firearms and pump-action shotguns other than in “exceptional circumstances,” such as military and police use.

The NFA also mandated that applicants wait 28 days from the time they obtain a permit to the time they buy a weapon. Applicants are also required to undergo firearms training, and weapons and ammunition must be stored separately, according to the law.

The Post's Kevin Sullivan reported that the 1996 massacre had united Australians on the gun debate.

Sullivan wrote:


In a land of only 18 million people, nearly everyone knew someone, or knew someone who knew someone, who was among the 500 or so people in the small waterfront historic site at Port Arthur that day. Australians took the murders personally: Polls showed 95 percent favored the new laws. Australians also were willing to reach into their own wallets to get rid of guns.


Sullivan added:


There was, of course, opposition to the new gun restrictions: Gun owners argued that the laws would not reduce gun crime and would unfairly penalize law-abiding sport-shooters. They said criminals would be emboldened because more of their victims would be unarmed. And they staged large rallies. Gun owners here always have been a powerful lobby, but they were surprisingly ineffective this time, despite support from the U.S. National Rifle Association.


In 2016, 20 years after the shooting in Tasmania, The Post's Christopher Ingraham cited research published in the Journal of the American Medical Association showing that Australia had not had a mass shooting since the reform, and that suicide rates in the country had been on the decline.

He noted, however, that there were no significant changes in gun-related homicides in the country.

But a 2016 investigation by an Australian newspaper, the Age, found that gun-related crimes in Melbourne had doubled over the previous five years.

In an editorial last year, the Age said it respected citizens' rights but that there are “some freedoms that have no place in a civilised society, and none more so than the carrying of illegal firearms.” The newspaper was applauding Australia's National Firearms Amnesty, which gives people the opportunity to register or sell their firearms — “no questions asked.”

The newspaper also called for firearm prohibition orders that would “allow police to subject prohibited persons to warrantless searches and ban them from being in proximity to a gun.”

Following Friday's massacre, the premier of Western Australia, Mark McGowan, called the shooting “tragic and shocking.”

Haynes, the family friend, told the ABC that the victims had moved into the home about three years ago. Neighbors reported that the children were home-schooled there.

Haynes told 9 News that over the years, Cynda Miles had become a beloved member of the small community.

“You can imagine this warm, motherly person who's always smiling,” she said, “always generous and brings fresh baked scones to everything. That’s Cynda.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...3X5?li=BBnb7Kz

thought that couldn't happen in Australia...

[Coops]

Surprised MSN ran the story. They hold up Australia as the model of a no gun country. less guns = less mass murders. Not so much.