Cumberland County Sheriff no longer signing

[liberty556]

I spoke with Thomas Kline, Cumberland County Sheriff, today about signing for a MG. He informed me that during a recent meeting of the Chiefs of Police that signing ATF transfer paperwork was discussed. Many county CLEO sign no problem, some do on special cases and others do not at all. Based on the many responses, the Cumberland County DA, David Freed, has instructed Sheriff Kline to refer all signature requests to the local police of the requestors residence or the PSP. A letter is being prepared by the DA to inform all of the local PD's and the PSP. However, I have already spoken to the PSP and they will not sign. They directed me to the Sheriff. Sheriff Kline is a great CLEO and his office always treated me with professionalism and respect. I am very disappointed to find this out and if you are awaiting a signature, you will be notified in the coming weeks.

I guess I have to use my Corp. for new items.

[Pa. Patriot]

Sheriff Kline is a great CLEO and his office always treated me with professionalism and respect. I am very disappointed to find this out and if you are awaiting a signature, you will be notified in the coming weeks.
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He is also ignorant of the law and refuses to talk about being corrected on it:

http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...t-so-good.html

[liberty556]

He is also ignorant of the law and refuses to talk about being corrected on it:

http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...t-so-good.html

What part of the NFA law is he ignorant of? I never had such a problem with Sherrif Kline. I explained what I wanted to do, gave him time to evaluate my request and he signed four tranfers for me. No problem. I believe it's all in how you approach the CLEO's, but I realize that some just won't budge.

[Pa. Patriot]

What part of the NFA law is he ignorant of? I never had such a problem with Sherrif Kline. I explained what I wanted to do, gave him time to evaluate my request and he signed four tranfers for me. No problem. I believe it's all in how you approach the CLEO's, but I realize that some just won't budge.

The link I posted takes you to a thread about a discussion that 338Winmag had with the sheriff. Sheriff insisted that a LTCF meant you *had to* conceal. (IOW, could not open carry)

Which is 100% not correct

[knight0334]

Where did the DA get the authority to make the Sheriff refer sign-off's to PSP or Police Chief's?

The Sheriff doesn't answer to the DA, neither do the police for that matter. Its a good thing I'm not Sheriff there, because I would have told that DA where to shove it.

[liberty556]

The link I posted takes you to a thread about a discussion that 338Winmag had with the sheriff. Sheriff insisted that a LTCF meant you *had to* conceal. (IOW, could not open carry)

Which is 100% not correct

Sorry, I was talking about NFA issues only. I never discussed concealed carry with him.

[liberty556]

Where did the DA get the authority to make the Sheriff refer sign-off's to PSP or Police Chief's?

The Sheriff doesn't answer to the DA, neither do the police for that matter. Its a good thing I'm not Sheriff there, because I would have told that DA where to shove it.

My understanding from communicating with the Sherrif is that he and the DA have some sort of understanding that they will consult with each other on situations like NFA paperwork. It may be politically motivated, I will never know for sure. Maybe the Sheriff just doesn't want the hassle or these NFA weapons bring too much attention. Either way I have more leg work to do to get the weapons. I don't think PSP will even consider signing.

[LH Arms]

I spoke with Thomas Kline, Cumberland County Sheriff, today about signing for a MG. He informed me that during a recent meeting of the Chiefs of Police that signing ATF transfer paperwork was discussed. Many county CLEO sign no problem, some do on special cases and others do not at all. Based on the many responses, the Cumberland County DA, David Freed, has instructed Sheriff Kline to refer all signature requests to the local police of the requestors residence or the PSP. A letter is being prepared by the DA to inform all of the local PD's and the PSP. However, I have already spoken to the PSP and they will not sign. They directed me to the Sheriff. Sheriff Kline is a great CLEO and his office always treated me with professionalism and respect. I am very disappointed to find this out and if you are awaiting a signature, you will be notified in the coming weeks.

I guess I have to use my Corp. for new items.

DA's can sign, but doesn't sound as though this one will. Also you can have a judge that hears criminal cases sign. I highly doubt that you will get PSP to sign. They WILL do fingerprints though.

[damcv62]

I spoke with Thomas Kline, Cumberland County Sheriff, today about signing for a MG. He informed me that during a recent meeting of the Chiefs of Police that signing ATF transfer paperwork was discussed.
I guess I have to use my Corp. for new items.

Did I talk to you today? Did you call Layman's gun shop?

Reason I'm asking is I've been toying with the idea to sell my RR, haven't made up my mind yet, but I've got one.

Donald

[liberty556]

Did I talk to you today? Did you call Layman's gun shop?

Reason I'm asking is I've been toying with the idea to sell my RR, haven't made up my mind yet, but I've got one.

Donald

Hi Don,

Yes, I did talk to you about Class 3 transfers. If you decide to sell yours, please let me know and give me some info about the RR.

Thanks